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To start, I would like to make this clear to everyone involved that Silk Road does not have malicious intentions or an anti-competition attitude, we actually require competition to keep us motivated and for the diversity of the network but in order to fulfill that function the competition must be a safe one which does not put people in harms way or subject to possible exploit. This post I hope will demonstrate to you why claims a market makes does not correlate to the true story and we would like to demonstrate this with Tormarket.

At this moment in time, I also want to clarify in light of recent events the full disclosure everyone deserves to know. This investigation started under the suspicion that Tormarket was behind the ongoing DDOS against Silk Road but has since taken another turn when we looked below the surface a little more. I have no conclusive proof Tormarket did or did not order the DDOS currently hitting us and personally I don't believe I ever will so I won't go on about this much more as it is actually not something that matters any more since we are definitely en route to fixing it if you have watched our recent developments, but over Tor such attacks are not trivial to correct. All of this is done in the name of safety and I hope the owners of Tormarket can take this seriously, go away and rethink their strategies because as I will discuss later we didn't even put much effort in to extracting this data.

What is it I am attempting to prove?

To take it from the home page of Tormarket, I wish to publicly overturn the rumors and falsehoods of some of the below:

Quote from: TorMarket

Darknet Market done right

Secure codebase, competent operators, and common sense.

Common sense I will allow that to pass as a subjective matter and how they wish to operate their market is none of my business. Competent operators - again it would depend on your individual definition of that. Secure codebase - let us put that to the test.

Let's start with the basics

One of the most valuable pieces of any website is the database. It controls so many parts of the site and without it there could be no effective market, so we started trying to extract the information from that. Surprise surprise, it didn't take long to grab the structure:

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orders table
- id
- price
- status
- qt
- address
- notes
- crypto_currency_id
- buyer_id
- buyer_username
- vendor_username
- vendor_id

vendor table
- id
- username
- banned
- currency
- location
- messages_id
- messages_body

Now we've had a sneak peak at their table structure, it was decided to have a trawl through the messages that vendors had sent to customers. We will list a little segment below, some vendors here might recognize their own messages with of course sensitive information removed from below.

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Paulwalker : thank you.
S0wl : has been sent.  if?
17538 : here's a screenshot
Strings999 : hello,i was sent an invite while
OGCorleone : hello, thanks for your order :)
Puntitot1 : has been sent.  if?
Berndman : hello,  your order is ready to ship.  you have to finalize now.
Crepuscular : hello,  did you order here or on  heep? what am i missing?
Jackpot1875 : hello,  your order is ready to ship.  you have to finalize now.
Spartanec731 : hello to  you as well . indeed it is the original haizenberg , and offence non taken , :)
Dogtanian : hello my friend good to hear from you,
Levlvov70 : hehe i was joking, but you seem cool man. i ll send you a sample of one each...
Az12er34ty56 : hello!  i requiered a seller account here  i am matrixx on bmr with more than 180 positives feedback!
Strom : hello,  your order is ready to ship.  you have to finalize now.
MickeyMantle : hi there, when your product has arrived please mark as arrived and set a positive feedback on your experience
Qwertyqazwsx : haha, won't do so brother... your order will ship asap.
Toefia : abgemacht. dann sind 7 tage rum und dann kann ich dir reship anbieten.
Spaniard : always verify identity using pgp key
Gtiv : allso mit unserem shop werden wir im lauf der nexten woche online gehen. wenn du willst kanst du auch dar ber verkauf n. wegen den geb ren bist du mit 1  einverstanden?  einfach f r hosting arbeit usw. ich werde noch ein paar andere verkaufer fragen ab
JTLeary : always verify identity using pgp key
MrTrump : ah yes i just saw it! i think with out 1700 orders and 100  feedback on sheep it will be going strong! -)
Slappfisk : bare
Piccolabesti : azi fb
Mushinmusa : bajs fr n katter?...

Then an order note which was from a buyer to a vendor, we'll keep this very select for obvious reasons:

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From: JackCubrick
To: GodfatherNL
Purchase:  *** 1 gram pure uncut cocaine ***
Message: hey there. please ship asap as i would like to place a large order before christmas once i have confirmed weigh in and quality

Worried? So were we.

Up to this point we weren't looking for any kind of mass data extraction, but in the interest of ensuring the users of Tormarket are safe, we had to do it anyway. The summary of some of the data we went through was to see who the top buyers were, something of equal interest to law enforcement as vendors except it is more likely a buyer will have leaked personal information on the site than a vendor. So who are the top buyers:

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Top 15 Buyers by number of products purchased

Buyer ID   Buyer Name
16759      icq
13621      jackcubrick
12226      shedrik
11994      dreamsage
13100      purpleextreme
12274      [redacted]
18634      [redacted]
10625      sebb66g
13572      choicethespi
16611      felsad
14731      marvel
11001      madcunt33
13127      sleep12
18308      roxas50
13132      rstevens

So user icq has the highest amount of products purchased. We investigated a little further to see precisely what he bought (and we could do this for every buyer I would like to point out):

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ID      Buyer      Vendor      Product
16759      icq      moneysell      Brazzers.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      rainbowbear      INTERNATIONAL 100 grams bulk methylone M1 moonrock 99.9% purity
16759      icq      moneysell      Teenpornopass.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      moneysell      PornPros.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      moneysell      Asiansexdiary.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      moneysell      Babes.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      dipsycards      An Idiot's Guide to Fleeing to Mexico
16759      icq      positive      Xbox One Console!
16759      icq      moneysell      3dxstar.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      moneysell      Sexart.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]

Somebody tell him you don't need to pay these days. Let's try another (jackcubrick):

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Purchases made by jackcubrick
Vendor: Product

PureHeaven : 3 Grams of Tested 90% Cocaine...Verified Vendor!
ozconnection L 1 gram Peru Cocaine Australia
sunwu : 250mg Pure Alprazolam Powder (Xanax) - USA
tomorrowman : 3 grams tan mdma crystals 85%+ purity
demoniak : 2GR PINK Speed (dry)
sunwu : 250mg Pure Alprazolam Powder (Xanax) - UK
wilfred : 3.5g Hydroponic BUDS - HIGH THC - New Vendor Special !!
justincase : 10 regular seeds - Hindu&#39;s Shiva
uperspeedbros : 2g of Speed -- Amphetamine sulfate
godfathernl : *** 1 gram pure uncut cocaine  ***

So can this extraction be scaled up to getting entire lists of users? Well we found out:

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BuyerID,BuyerUsername
10011,giveemhere
10037,brian146
10039,jayjay
10042,downlowfunk
10046,torrex
10061,minimilk
10066,mightymax
10067,screwtape
10069,datamatrix
10072,shlooky
10073,okipoki
10078,brithney85w
10081,greenjoker
10082,odyssey47
10086,magmush
10090,mxwssh
10095,gaviboy
10100,milky
10106,timtimebomb
10107,slappfisk
10108,brainman123
10113,creepers1
10127,ronaldo72
10130,ch0sen
10134,4corner
10136,posrednik
10146,lulz87
10156,cweistein
10158,afiddlerfair
10171,frankiemachi
10185,2q2
10186,skizzdaghost
10190,waltermichae
10200,violetraindr
10203,raeuberhotze
10213,parleybowl84
10215,boogersugar3
10218,reiji
10226,tjebbe
10254,quiziti_
10259,xylitol
10268,bugnine9
10282,skobeywan
10296,muggle
10298,melvvinn_
10299,hdth
10302,treemonk
10310,silvercarrot
10312,blaster2438
10313,agape
10316,gzo_
10318,crevtiae
10321,hitman
10324,bigstoners
10330,gigglebox
10370,irishjunkie4
10371,dimitriglitc
10372,factory9
10389,arya420
10399,az12er34ty56
10402,theroland
10413,meggymix
10418,monkeydust
10418,m_
10431,flipit
10433,mrviking
10437,h4rdc0r3
10453,mcg324
10455,loffer
10455,_
10461,thecrazyman1
10467,pallymally
10474,thayle
10476,twistedrx
10477,olddetleff
10496,bigone77
10498,groovetime79
10511,dimetho
10512,beardofneptune
10518,unahmedishe
10534,pretzelmaste
10554,krick75
10555,haremmac
10558,stupid123
10560,keeker34
10562,angeldemom
10567,fevolution
10593,cocacoca
10595,jackpot1875
10610,hatchet13a
10623,stimpackuser
10624,lemon714
10625,sebb66g
10627,horstschorst
10643,c17h21no4
10648,rekt
10649,snicker
10653,eltorrelo
10665,g0awayb4t1ng
10671,cilius
10704,mango420
10706,depre553
10708,hohoho
10709,sulph84
10732,davidian
10733,renniemint
10753,marcotb1287
10756,neilarmstron
10757,weedplease
10758,acid420
10769,skinnymalink
10799,sternkraft
10812,elesdee
10819,graves
10827,toplessmind
10835,peterborough
10841,bbb2
10861,slapchop
10885,needthatnow
10892,nanonyymi
10907,rator93
10908,jumboballs7
10909,gimmeabreak
10921,planb
10928,trevelyan
10947,kappagrande
10963,joe121
10967,canesnake
10968,monkey18
10976,mr2happy
10981,godsnameissm
10982,raresh
11001,madcunt33
11012,stankydanky
11016,1bigdog
11038,d1rkd1g1tal
11046,gyste1
11053,johns282
11071,trailertrash
11078,masterblaste
11100,lastresort
11102,thcbuds
11104,jeffhawkins
11114,thelionshare
11116,sournycd
11120,hobbes
11123,jameson
11126,strom
11137,ruffiee
11147,jenslover
11160,tiririca
11162,blentron
11168,5orlorn
11170,jonnoj
11175,mrmonster123
11180,sillysally
11182,deepelmo
11188,panlanwan
11200,scolopax
11204,wikid50
11222,thall
11245,methy
11256,jb299999
11262,dendrix
11268,westhebeast
11271,docbenway71
11274,moi_
11280,pinecone25
11288,phoon
11293,damane033
11296,jaystiles
11317,gagao
11320,spoot36
11352,sloppyjoe
11367,toomertoo
11369,robertfr
11377,rollin
11381,carlitolegen
11388,dogtanian
11405,catlessrugged
11413,kelevrahz
11427,mmmesopus101
11429,bubi
11452,candles
11453,goldbond
11464,blustik
11465,ballsacker
11480,thetonik
11484,boc
11498,mrmagoo
11499,tap
11500,vaan1
11508,zounce
11511,bikerbum
11524,acidroom123
11533,zeek01
11541,valueadded
11545,50fifty
11549,lionfish37
11550,trent
11564,sonicdeathmo
11566,i7847463846
11588,dr67p
11595,wingotodman
11597,brookey
11601,motibiti
11625,dack
11647,poundtownher
11651,luckycampbel
11667,vidali_
11683,potatobread
11687,shaveandahai
11693,heavyduty744
11695,fpm10
11708,rucksichlos
11710,pinkpowerran
11732,belzhikr
11736,oogaboogagoo
11737,seek3r00
11746,boringgirl
11773,jakndex
11811,bitcoinbitco
11818,red99
11819,holyghost
11820,amesghali
11821,principalway
11829,mrm
11835,dagger
11842,anonlifestyle
11848,demoniakk
11849,mortondumal
11865,dakeera
11866,xxxxman
11879,blahblah1
11886,atouttsmanne
11891,bluebossa
11905,nsimeh417
11915,hofsdiufwebk
11917,z0rfire
11918,mynameishate_
11921,elegantfile
11923,blimpy22
11924,athomebomb
11930,clobro1
11932,bluester
11939,irishaustral
11963,gentoo
11967,newchanges
11972,danimus
11973,spaniard
11980,djevans71
11985,mrsmith
11994,dreamsage
12010,soylentgreen
12016,ellisdee3
12044,testeraccount90
12048,dshas
12049,improbable
12053,h20
12078,pedro21
12085,phoenixender
12100,nickyblades
12101,getupped
12116,vbh
12128,oubaya
12133,canda
12145,tk005
12164,pipwalker
12173,namename
12176,aslanchik
12180,datz
12214,mhitchens42
12215,brownevo
12224,fts123
12226,shedrik
12240,khanbongo
12245,jinkz
12247,glycerat100
12254,dadinio3213
12264,cumknot
12269,d8jd8jd8j
12275,psytranceg
12287,swissprog
12289,ohmathea
12290,ctrlalth
12304,zeeozwei
12306,sophocles
12318,bluefox
12337,shamus68
12338,bealzebobs
12340,jeanlefebvre
12348,lostinspace
12373,herpmcderp
12382,unknown555
12388,shaft
12424,leirbag
12444,snorro119
12454,piratecannon
12457,mrtrump
12463,niall2012
12468,rossisucht
12472,stlbigkahu_
12475,hurstwok
12484,plitzein
12491,fireflyx
12499,swizzlestick
12503,kindle
12509,sourmonkey
12524,qwertyqazwsx
12543,balanter
12549,forellebabbe
12554,buffalos
12558,ctrlctrl
12566,freeparking
12570,brbdriver
12584,keneeth
12603,spaceminers6
12605,topsecnick
12606,ilovepnr
12613,dotdash
12628,rambo512
12631,herhim2009
12634,shingles
12650,headspace123
12655,fiskar
12675,boybreathran
12696,kerin28
12706,phishfan
12717,redman
12735,jellyrajah
12736,theargonaut
12748,spartanec731
12751,44xseba
12764,rs6k
12782,moz
12791,squirrelmast
12797,diddlerizzle
12824,theendall
12826,anto6901
12829,r3aliize
12834,psychonaut123
12836,django13
12838,scunkysmerf
12843,finearts
12863,casanostra25
12866,overc375
12869,byron2013
12876,nighthawk
12888,filonxhp3k59
12889,speedweed
12895,dreamfox
12903,brick888
12932,trippinf0x
12953,piccolabesti
12956,untergrundsz
12971,tmko
12985,jflynn
12986,alienthc
12991,cbozwiek22
12995,berndman
13000,traderbtc
13001,ne0ngirl
13007,nestea01
13009,johnmiller
13019,tberry
13028,778dexter778
13031,zaklinaczcip
13033,coolethan
13035,onionsoup
13050,wilbert89
13057,surfer
13070,tsm123
13073,jla
13085,whiteflight
13088,superskunk79
13090,facemelt
13093,nurse80
13100,purpleextreme
13111,dracula
13116,unknown79
13119,asdfuiops
13124,mikenewbit
13125,mtothex
13127,sleep12
13130,scunnered
13132,rstevens
13147,komaschaedel
13148,granville999
13149,levlvov70
13150,libertas1234
13154,heimderdokto
13162,akafreak
13166,svenzzon
13173,relaxedsoup
13178,mssdark
13180,fla_
13195,ahdls
13199,astrid
13208,m911j
13219,guple520
13226,wwmjax
13240,jollyrogers
13266,thisaintme89
13272,cannsument
13284,tambour
13286,dextermorgan
13294,rubberducklo
13298,turner13
13303,mrkobayashi
13312,foxcloud
13319,alligatorsmi
13324,dandan
13326,gizdog
13333,aurai
13343,rayray60
13354,zapzarap
13361,gmtmaster
13362,bluegoat
13408,whitesferry
13409,hexdebt
13411,pebbles200
13424,wiecz
13450,alfr40jd
13455,epicdick
13463,rotrier
13467,xteb112
13472,pryzak
13473,the70th
13483,stonedude
13487,happyguy72
13494,rasputin
13495,xk5910
13548,starshiptent
13571,justmarried
13572,choicethespi
13574,merlo
13583,jacofaco11
13597,aussiehq
13612,fearlessfred
13619,kronhjorten1
13621,jackcubrick
13625,uhr
13633,cloudso_
13637,pablo6666
13645,roth
13652,anonym254
13673,bushmans
13688,doctorgig
13690,following
13698,celvin
13706,gazer
13724,re3r25rw1
13725,jtleary
13733,flex
13740,guanaci
13742,redtree13
13743,annonnymous
13764,sanctiman
13795,billy1234
13819,immortalis66
13819,immortalis666
13828,frink
13829,donaldtruck
13830,toefia
13832,dizzydinosaur
13834,mott
13837,testingdis
13838,normannormal
13852,nextlegacy
13858,bool
13862,digitalluv3r
13869,rufio
13875,icho
13894,blackburn74
13897,zaszax
13901,franco21
13903,spookeemeeto
13918,lacticacid
13920,jabato
13925,tootelage
13933,spsp
13938,nickbla
13940,cuco
13944,mrmustard
13949,mariejuana
13951,tranquil
13965,lordbonk
13967,findingsolac
13974,uberstat1
13977,fooney
13980,care696
13982,a845631
13990,mongoose88
13997,scotty1278
14000,griselda
14008,vad0r
14010,barepiff
14019,googleplus
14022,suppertime
14025,snoffle
14032,fox0r
14038,lemonhaze
14047,niwatat
14075,catlicker420
14081,dimwizzle
14084,verde
14089,lovechild96
14092,mileycyrus21
14093,intothemist
14128,0verlord
14130,bigplateofcr
14134,hapticreel
14138,vermithrax
14140,cabbagetree
14143,snowflake91
14150,tvizzle88
14166,smilebob
14169,punisher
14173,virt4321
14185,meow
14202,bunnyrabbit3
14204,fatarcher
14210,mavlito
14215,darthvader
14217,kanets2
14232,spliffy420
14245,neb11
14247,zidane99
14278,esc0bare
14284,mrsimmer100
14287,coffeeblack
14292,redone1
14296,joejackson19
14300,mybuyguy2
14305,scootie2
14313,jezisjevzkri
14315,pollyanna99
14326,ata100t
14366,trampdyna
14398,atxrebel
14400,twilightprin
14403,quedlo
14411,traumarked
14415,spyguymarket
14417,ganjaman
14437,tkolts
14446,bowser
14456,shablam123
14475,bigrat2
14486,d537719
14509,icarus212121
14512,dabbb1
14525,bobdylan21
14541,sdfseg32tg2
14543,saber45
14554,diminion
14562,matix22
14566,millionaires
14567,markymark102
14576,dimon114
14580,pillpig
14585,aznlova
14587,qstrong
14596,junipergreen
14601,bruda372_
14604,mikejonas
14605,omega06
14617,jimmybuffet
14625,shrodinger
14629,gratuity
14653,davematthews
14655,jonesy63au
14661,jimbojones29
14662,4ncb
14667,arthur
14678,greengo420
14699,heaviside
14702,jabb3rwock
14716,trainwreck
14724,blackcodedog
14725,colin1
14730,yellow43
14731,marvel
14759,theheard
14762,dudeguymanpe
14769,sdgsdf
14770,paulwalker
14804,helper77777
14818,stinkybudz
14820,rexthecat
14821,jblaze
14837,badpacers
14841,mediamonkey
14844,rogalach
14845,calvin
14853,hell0
14860,shakur6pack
14875,ace619
14877,l2h2k
14883,1surg
14889,quakez
14891,lanochen
14896,silentworker
14898,grineflip
14902,luxornight
14920,krauch
14926,iknes
14985,zazoo
14986,olpalk
14990,georgeb
15002,marketman1
15005,anon7869
15011,hubihubsn
15020,septaflyer
15023,ogcorleone
15027,puntitot1
15034,harbinger168
15041,psytrance
15048,eris
15093,b13q7tey6qe3
15095,waid123
15099,pedroc5123
15112,holygrail
15121,goliat
15143,nyymi
15158,federalhero
15168,undecylic
15169,salimmk
15171,ninjadab
15182,king2000
15186,mrp
15191,strainhunter
15206,e0n
15222,senior
15237,boxn2
15255,majschmidt
15256,yuyi
15270,dreamchild
15274,dutchy
15280,mangohedgeho
15295,rezin
15296,q77uvctj
15298,smartbuyer
15317,wesmantoothh
15322,qplabr
15323,hakunamatada
15324,undergroundd
15325,ljqaq
15342,dmad
15384,qwerty123
15395,thebear
15398,formula22
15425,quickben
15426,wahamann
15439,somethingveg
15446,blkmn
15457,pinotgrigio
15472,captainpanic
15476,pineapples
15489,notrelluf
15490,ragnar
15493,wonkachole
15501,demeter
15525,neversummer
15529,lilbooseyfan
15533,h3xagon
15547,mindbender
15576,papabear
15584,1berty
15590,dickvanhinte
15594,freed
15600,walterwhitej
15613,darkdweller
15616,greatbig
15642,fiatxu454
15650,snoww
15653,craftypie
15683,cornelius23
15690,thesumofallb
15712,dolby23
15714,blank2052
15722,theaaaconnec
15739,rawrang
15747,gundy0101
15748,tracy
15755,beams
15758,bigenus
15759,zany88
15763,givemeoil420
15772,yimmy
15799,chopinnuun1
15804,happymerry
15818,looksaround
15832,hellojava
15836,smackdown
15853,liquid
15864,thefist
15867,wickedwitch6
15890,drhellokitty
15910,maryann
15920,viciousbiscuit
15951,auston
15953,crazyb
15955,charlesfarle
15961,laksmi
15984,9bibby
15986,wuzups
15995,ryobie9
15997,stickyman
16001,trainmaster
16035,bilb0
16047,st00sh1e
16054,djaybjay
16055,neverbeenbetter
16057,ronfuckingsw
16075,wanteddetnaw
16080,baang
16082,gr_
16084,seziertier
16095,seadragon
16098,g_
16098,god
16111,namekevo
16119,keram
16123,raigen
16126,carlex
16152,brudes1
16158,rhodjab
16160,mrx8552
16168,mrinnocent
16174,trancemaster
16175,sweatywookie
16183,arjuna
16204,charvo95
16206,caraboulou
16216,penguin1
16218,importsbrasi
16224,james69
16225,inspectahdeck
16235,stevo1234
16237,poizulimo
16250,hansopel
16257,herbalking
16279,kbdhro
16280,sleesh
16282,whitefish000
16288,arraki_
16294,muffyduffy1984
16303,ericcartman
16322,acervol
16331,farmhand
16343,mushinmusa
16369,alliwantisso
16377,nfw91
16397,wholebuy
16401,ezio14
16417,icansee
16429,feodorbelved
16466,pilotflying
16470,ooopdcbza
16473,boboav
16474,ggl3000
16477,misfits69
16485,rodneybusine
16490,nope
16492,3zero
16512,jonathanpric
16525,theotherguy
16528,trit
16536,gjchjr
16551,ab_
16557,snaprabbit
16579,jdjdjd
16587,jeffast
16589,libertadhoy
16603,fermion
16610,mickeymantle
16611,felsad
16643,flip36
16689,style2121
16700,taronga
16704,voracious
16718,youngmorpheu
16720,salvo77
16721,dosethrasher612
16724,upthecreek
16759,icq
16771,circussam
16792,caloway
16794,buxton
16830,livefree
16839,o0rainman0o
16858,darkstar7736
16867,paploo07
16878,kinghappy
16884,niggaz
16884,_
16892,sonabe
16908,coffeetime04
16931,sugarfree
16934,gesundheit
16938,beerman
16986,strings999
16994,dima88
16998,tampico
16999,carlosbrindi
17034,spider
17057,nickel
17064,lojin99
17066,sottodue
17095,ch3dd3rdr4g0
17100,jdobie
17106,barry21
17111,salma6
17122,transactor
17145,antoine
17146,bobtastic
17150,heroin666
17166,sennzy
17167,chickenwings
17172,raskolnikov
17175,tedblanders
17212,thedude
17214,thefunkybunc
17233,marketface20
17237,thewineohs
17251,ketchup1000
17254,soulpatch141
17265,skzap
17270,senordingdon
17277,m4lk4v14n
17288,zhangxuelian
17308,fostershome4
17319,larsiboy13
17330,glowtape
17343,supertramp
17352,ableapp1
17367,kermitthetoad
17371,dadieoo
17396,smokedoutsun
17415,ilovewater
17424,inri1010
17435,kak1828
17440,happyhippy
17446,trip78
17463,crummytits
17472,ninjaslipper
17474,rockybalboa7
17479,whowhatwhere
17491,sargas93
17494,joshdavey
17496,eric2267
17517,zeq8nxwn
17536,iigivegoodre
17574,coreyi7
17603,brucious
17613,eaststand
17621,mrbojangles
17631,rachet
17638,pansymansy
17639,jumpinforseals
17664,lazerbeam
17687,iaminnocent
17692,chattylego
17697,whitewallet
17709,cheego
17719,inpetus
17725,6singfried6
17751,xotillweover
17761,gardenhose
17773,tolly37
17781,lake1212
17786,nanjazz25
17812,sunshadow4
17815,3juanvaldez
17829,fishscale
17831,kollasx
17843,endymion
17851,fnordle
17862,s0wl
17863,81kaisa81
17879,oaxacan
17881,lakshmi
17883,memorylane
17884,usserioummer
17887,desnudito
17887,d_
17893,toxinld
17899,moosdagoose
17902,bobby178
17917,oklol
17971,lakomka
17983,marley91
17984,cogeneration
17989,mightyreal
18017,funkytown7
18022,xtcking
18026,singularity
18033,toxicmadhatt
18034,cloudsof
18047,colforbin
18048,dmtbliss
18073,soupsuser
18113,pingpong99
18152,medibird
18157,pooter
18171,wvwnl
18189,lawnmower
18190,h0ll0wfry
18210,multitox
18232,unn4m3d
18245,sanostrike
18256,gotfried
18274,killareese1
18285,mrmutto
18292,gameristo
18307,liveaction86
18308,roxas50
18336,sunflowersin
18356,shineforever
18373,finite
18419,marialionza
18425,rainbain
18426,d4fre2fmxn
18441,dah38esi
18461,tkkg
18466,physicalhatr
18521,rackyrule
18547,bum85
18560,_
18578,xyz001
18585,itistruth
18613,gunakiktomar
18620,xelab2
18627,aliasof1
18636,bitcoinsboi
18650,mdfrankie
18655,wooly8
18661,mx876
18666,bobdavis33
18669,sampson
18674,adamaisha
18703,grungygringo
18712,iqvirus
18719,larrythefalc
18730,jk4477
18739,thefinn
18754,weedman2013
18763,rezat
18785,greenfish
18795,james546
18824,suavalava
18844,happywanderi
18845,rline
18870,yp1445
18908,bee
18909,alibrite
18914,bigbee69
18918,toeknee
18934,teeveestar
18935,beaconofgod
18969,trachta
18987,dexguy20
19016,milton
19020,cain1919
19037,manasek
19046,crazybobmarley
19058,ketaminekier
19075,poiuytrewq
19079,berrabus
19080,gtiv
19082,elephant
19091,kingsizesilv
19124,derekderek
19137,mensget
19139,grasssea
19151,rgodo26
19152,b5x44
19153,bertandernie
19194,spacetravele
19204,fannybaws11
19206,sh0p
19218,crepuscular
19240,noly
19246,anaccount
19253,highasakite
19255,martinus91
19285,betelgeidze

Should I be worried?

Well let us put this forward as a simple notion. All of the above was gathered without us resorting to fancy tricky or advanced web hacks or 0-day exploits, it was something most clearnet websites run in an automated test and don't expect to find it to pull anything. It is so simple I could actually teach the masses (very easily) how to conduct their own data gathering using some of the techniques we used and still we haven't even explored the more advanced ones as we know we already have the information in front of us. This kind of attack shouldn't even work against the most primitive database driven systems, let alone an online black market and absolutely anyone can do it. If law enforcement are watching I would have no doubt they found this long before us.

The observant among you have noticed by now we haven't exposed addresses yet that is on the database table above - I trust I don't need to dox somebody to prove my point right now and so I won't be posting any dox and nor shall I ever, we deleted that information from our records when we saw it as it is outrageous. We tested TorMarket and found yes there is javascript on the page and sometimes it refuses to accept plaintext addresses, but the fact there are plaintext addresses in that database only concludes it is not effective at filtering addresses and in my opinion decreases security by taking the responsibility away from the user - the alternate explanation of this is that plaintext addresses are being kept as well as an encrypted form which is presented to vendors but the whole topic of saving addresses I won't delve in to further.

Do we have more data than the above? Yes. Significantly more, but I will only do harm by publishing more so I will leave this case study with you, the users of Tor and our spectators, do you believe that Tormarket has a secure codebase, or is it just another claim like the many others who have a "secure" reputation because they just haven't been hacked yet.

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I love to see these things. Brilliant, Bob.

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Not like Bob didnt warn them...

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*palm face*

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Yikes!

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LMAO

Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on Today at 02:23:54 am

So user icq has the highest amount of products purchased. We investigated a little further to see precisely what he bought (and we could do this for every buyer I would like to point out):

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ID      Buyer      Vendor      Product
16759      icq      moneysell      Brazzers.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      rainbowbear      INTERNATIONAL 100 grams bulk methylone M1 moonrock 99.9% purity
16759      icq      moneysell      Teenpornopass.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      moneysell      PornPros.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      moneysell      Asiansexdiary.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      moneysell      Babes.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      dipsycards      An Idiot's Guide to Fleeing to Mexico
16759      icq      positive      Xbox One Console!
16759      icq      moneysell      3dxstar.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]
16759      icq      moneysell      Sexart.com - [LIFETIME PORN PREMIUM ACCOUNT]

Somebody tell him you don't need to pay these days. Let's try another (jackcubrick):

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