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Support => Customer support => Topic started by: doommach on February 24, 2013, 12:46 am

Title: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: doommach on February 24, 2013, 12:46 am

EnterTheMatrix is starting to look suspiscious.

this listing seems to be getting ALOT of FE and non delivery, i myself is victem to such.

vendor has stopped communication but is still taking orders. does anyone know what is going on, and is there anyway i can get a refund even though i have already FE?

if the vendor releases tracking details you will be able to see that it hasnt arrived.

feedback i left

Rating : 1 of 5

Comment:    FE will update when arrives

*UPDATE* 5 days not here, paid for express "super stealth"

*UPDATE* 9 days not here, contacted seller after 5 days letting them know, NO REPLY.

have purchased from them before and everything has gone smoothly, this is first time FE, reason they gave for asking for FE was that i asked for the 2g to be put into 0.1g caps for me, in return asked for FE.

Posted : 9 days ago

my buying stats are:

Total transactions: 32
Total spent: ฿413.46
Refund rate: 0%
Auto-finalize rate: 0%
Member for: 1 year

also they havent provided tracking info, this will prove it wasn't delivered

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 24, 2013, 01:07 am

Member for 1 year yet this is only your 3rd post in the forums?

I will check the aussie thread now and ask re this increase in FE.

ETM has always been very active on the forums and in my experience only ever provided excellent customer service.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: hiroki on February 24, 2013, 01:30 am

I believe I am a victim of this aswell, something shady is going on.

Ordered some MDMA in their sale two fridays ago. I've made 2 successful orders from them before, but this time they required I FE due to a slight (small) refund rate, so I did that.

Order was marked in transit last Monday. Didn't arrive by Wednesday or Thursday so I contacted ETM. They gave me a 100% guarantee it would be there by Friday and that if it wasn't they would give 100% refund.

Come Friday, it still hadn't arrived. I contacted ETM again Friday afternoon, but still haven't gotten any reply despite repeated attempts to contact them.

What the hell is going on? I have no choice but to leave them very bad feedback for lack of arrival, poor communication and broken promises.

I thought ETM was very trustworthy from my first couple of orders, but this has really changed my mind.

EDIT:

My stats are as follows -

Total transactions: 25
Total spent: ฿220.71
Refund rate: 3.98%
Auto-finalize rate: 0.43%
Member for: 1 year

ETM required I FE due to the refund rate of 3.98%. I acquired this rate from a single transaction in which the seller was falsely advertising and packaging poorly, and furthermore the seller was banned at the same time in an incident unrelated to my problem. So I believe I am a very trustworthy buyer, would have perfect stats if it wasn't for that.

Thanks samesamebutdifferent, I hope they contact me real soon because I'm very frustrated with the situation.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 24, 2013, 01:36 am

I have sent ETM a link to this thread, I would anticipate that you will be reading a response from them very soon.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: hiroki on February 24, 2013, 02:31 am

Thanks samesamebutdifferent. I still haven't gotten any reply from them, despite leaving bad feedback and sending messages to them through BOTH the SR messaging and the Forums messaging.

I will continue to update, hopefully they contact me soon.

Anyone else experiencing problems with this vendor?

Doomach, please post any updates to your situation! Thanks

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 24, 2013, 05:04 am

I have also posted in the aussie thread raising your concerns as detailed here. It would be very uncharacteristic of ETM not to respond within the next 5 hours or so.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: tea_drinker on February 24, 2013, 05:09 am

Sure would be a shame if Australia's longest serving vendor is choosing to bow out like this. He certainly has a lot of peoples trust.

Hopefully Matrix comes in any second and sorts things out!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 24, 2013, 05:15 am

Hold onto your tin foil just a little bit longer before you go righting off one of Australia's biggest vendors because of two complaints  ;)

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: jnemonic on February 24, 2013, 06:27 am

Strange reading about this. 9 days without delivery is worrying from a domestic vendor.
Cant seem to see all their feedback on their vendor page.. ???

Hope you guys get what you ordered, sounds like a case of postal theft perhaps..? :-X

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: fredflintstone on February 24, 2013, 06:45 am

Bought his ATM card 3 days ago.

He sent me an email asking me to FE, I did and now I havent heard from him but he has read my message.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nutbaroriginal on February 24, 2013, 07:00 am

Was also asked to FE and havn't received a message from him since, if he's cashing out on us i'll be pretty upset :(

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: hiroki on February 24, 2013, 07:05 am

I doubt it's postal theft, that doesn't explain ETM's sudden lack of communication. If it was a case of postage theft, surely ETM would check the express post tracking number and contact me (that's the purpose of the tracking number of course, so that they can be sure whether an item has been delivered or not, to protect themselves against fraudulent buyers).

Has anyone else had any contact with ETM in the past 24-48 hours? It says on their vendor page "was last seen: today" and they've also made an update to their 'matrix live news feed' (on vendor page) today (24/02) saying "Lightning FAST shipping is back with Express Post on EVERY ITEM! Please see our new products and specials!".

fredflinstone, what do you mean about him buying his ATM card, could you explain how that relates to this discussion?

nutbaroriginal, how long ago did you FE, how long ago was it marked 'in transit' and did you leave feedback yet?

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: fourstar on February 24, 2013, 07:09 am

I have also experienced this with my second order with ETM from SR.

FE, promised Friday delivery or full refund. Non arrival and no communication after requested tracking number.

i'm seeing a pattern here..

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: hiroki on February 24, 2013, 07:19 am

To all those who are having the same issue, make sure you leave feedback (or edit it if you've already posted a 'FE as requested'). Whatever is going on, we need to get the message out that it is unwise to make any orders from ETM at this point, or more people are gonna get stuck in this situation. I suspect there are many people who have FE'd but haven't seen or posted in this thread yet.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: championzero on February 24, 2013, 07:28 am

same boat as everyone here FE'D last monday no product.......

just hit the report vendor button!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: drgreen on February 24, 2013, 07:36 am

sounds like what Winta has done to me atm.........same story, everything that u mentioned happend to me on the same day aswell. sounds like the same person but i wouldnt have a clue.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nutbaroriginal on February 24, 2013, 07:45 am

just goes to show you can't trust any cunt on SR, not even the top 1% vendors. this was a good wakeup call for me at the very least

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: drgreen on February 24, 2013, 07:53 am

yeah thats true......i forgot to mention iv had no reply from my vendor that seems like the only difference.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 24, 2013, 07:54 am

UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE CONSIDER THIS VENDOR AS HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS AND DO NOT FE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: hiroki on February 24, 2013, 08:02 am

Just to reiterate to anyone else who is experiencing the same issue with EnterTheMatrix, make sure you LEAVE FEEDBACK (or edit it accordingly if you've already left feedback) so that the message gets out to other potential buyers.

Also, click the REPORT THIS VENDOR button on their vendor page, so that SR staff can act on it as quickly as possible.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nutbaroriginal on February 24, 2013, 08:06 am

is there any chance of getting our bitcoins back if SR admins take action? or are they lost forever?

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: fredflintstone on February 24, 2013, 08:14 am

How do you edit feedback ?

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nutbaroriginal on February 24, 2013, 08:19 am

my account > view feedback > find order > edit

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: alphabettown on February 24, 2013, 08:26 am

I'm in the same boat there:

10x Xanax
50x LSD blotters

FE for both "because of sale pricing", stupidly assumed that a 1% vendor was trustworthy.

Will be keeping my purchases JesusOfRave only from now on

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: FknJoocy on February 24, 2013, 08:37 am

With all the people coming out saying they haven't received anything or had no communication since FE, it isn't looking great. Lets just hope there is an actual explanation for this, but he has been on here today and hasn't answered a thing so........

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nutbaroriginal on February 24, 2013, 08:56 am

they need to make a rule where if a vendor does this where they can suspend all the bitcoins from the first review of someone not getting said product and all of those bitcoins are held until further notice. otherwise this will happen EVERYTIME a vendor quits and just milks it for everything its worth. Or at least SOMETHING to prevent this from happening in future.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: championzero on February 24, 2013, 09:00 am

Matrix has deleted his last update off his profile now and thrown in a few 555555 for good laughs

wonder if anyone knows what 5555 means in thai

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: alphabettown on February 24, 2013, 09:03 am

he's gotten away with at the very least (by my estimates) 300-400BTC.

I've waved goodbye to what I had and can only hope that BTC double in value over the next year or so, so I can recoup the losses from naievity.

He's been online since this thread has been started.

Easy way to solve scam solution:

Don't allow purchases to be withdrawn from SR account till 30 days after finalizing.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: championzero on February 24, 2013, 09:14 am

""Lightning FAST shipping is back with Express Post on EVERY ITEM! Please see our new products and specials!"."

is what disappeared from his page......

This guy is going rogue!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Pusci on February 24, 2013, 09:18 am

Subbing

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nutbaroriginal on February 24, 2013, 09:25 am

Quote from: alphabettown on February 24, 2013, 09:03 am

he's gotten away with at the very least (by my estimates) 300-400BTC.

I've waved goodbye to what I had and can only hope that BTC double in value over the next year or so, so I can recoup the losses from naievity.

He's been online since this thread has been started.

Easy way to solve scam solution:

Don't allow purchases to be withdrawn from SR account till 30 days after finalizing.

>scam people
>wait 30 days for funds to clear
>withdraw anyway

i don't see how that will stop it? it will only take them longer to do so. unless you can somehow get the funds back to their rightful owners?

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: 1111 on February 24, 2013, 09:31 am

He got me for $2k, fuck.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: tea_drinker on February 24, 2013, 09:35 am

Quote from: championzero on February 24, 2013, 09:00 am

wonder if anyone knows what 5555 means in thai

Matrix is off to Thailand :)

I do believe my first SR order was courtesy of The Matrix Team. Lately lost 2 orders to 'old school' vendors asking to FE.

And the road grinds on..

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nutbaroriginal on February 24, 2013, 09:37 am

Quote from: 1111 on February 24, 2013, 09:31 am

He got me for $2k, fuck.

damn bro... thats harsh shit...  :'(

*hugs*

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: FknJoocy on February 24, 2013, 09:40 am

Turn your head to the right guys when looking at the 5s on his page............strong giving us the finger while laughing to Thailand.

1111 :(

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: 1111 on February 24, 2013, 09:48 am

Quote from: nutbaroriginal on February 24, 2013, 09:37 am

Quote from: 1111 on February 24, 2013, 09:31 am

He got me for $2k, fuck.

damn bro... thats harsh shit...  :'(

*hugs*

Thanks, I needed that  :'(

Lesson learned, and karma's a bitch.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: hiroki on February 24, 2013, 09:56 am

He's definitely gone out with quite a bit....

E.g:
-6 people have FE for his Matrix Money ATM cards (nearly 70 BC each)
-3 people for his new LSD vials (17 BC each)
-5 people f or his Matrix Secrets (86 BC each)
-5 people for 50 LSD tabs (14 BC each)

That adds up to close to 700 BC in itself. Do the math.

And of course there will be many more smaller orders.  My sympathy goes out to all who made larger orders.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Pusci on February 24, 2013, 09:57 am

I had strange feelings about etm ever since they put them cards up for that price..

Etm was my first ever purchase too ... sad day...

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: alphabettown on February 24, 2013, 10:10 am

Lesson learned for me i guess, never trust australians.
We're a bunch of cunts.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Bundy on February 24, 2013, 11:19 am

Quote from: samesamebutdifferent on February 24, 2013, 07:54 am

UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE CONSIDER THIS VENDOR AS HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS AND DO NOT FE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

spend 14 btc yesterday in one of their products, I just loggear in silkroad and I received a message from the requesting FE (I did) ... His reputation was good yesterday and now I find this. This sucks, maybe he want to retire and before defrauding the greatest number of people. I hope it all a misunderstanding.  :'(

SK can freeze your account?, so he can not withdraw bitcoins until everything is clarifying?  :'(

I lost a month's salary with this fagot, I accept donations :)
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Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Supervite on February 24, 2013, 11:40 am

I have noticed very low prices on some of their regular prices.

i.e.
LSD 100 drop vial was $597, now only $497
10 x Xanax's for $10 less than the 5 pack? ($39 for 10 vs $49 for 5???)
The MDMA and LSD combo, the 1.0g MDMA + 5x LSD combo is only like $20 more than the 0.5g MDMA!

There are others.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Meatgrinder on February 24, 2013, 12:05 pm

Loving all the comments in his feedback on the main site.

Glad I didn't order molly from him..

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 24, 2013, 12:10 pm

DO NOT FUCKING FE FOR THIS CUNT YOU NOOBS

hes a shady fucking capitalist cunt. i mean seriously, when the FUCK did etm ever have prices this cheap, hes known for being a fucking ripoff! it screams SCAM.

as said before, hit the REPORT VENDOR BUTTON.. stop this cunt before he gets anymore money

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 24, 2013, 12:27 pm

I'm sorry to say this does indeed look like a case of a vendor turned rogue.

Anyone experiencing issues please report via the main site and change your feedback accordingly to alert other potential buyers.

NEVER FE FOR ANY VENDOR! ESPECIALLY WHEN ORDERING DOMESTIC!

So fucking sorry to read all the posts of people who appear to have been caught up in this, I acted as fast as I could, I really did, FUCK!!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Fallkniven on February 24, 2013, 01:16 pm

lol

just fucken lol

*shakes head*

dont worry ssbd, you did the best you could... people will get over it eventually

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nanpa2001 on February 24, 2013, 01:27 pm

Well... this is surprising.

I did notice the price decrease though, and I thought that competitive pricing was a bit out of character for ETM.

I wonder, why do this now? He worked his way up to a top ranking vendor, and is burning all that for some short term gain. Whatever happened, he is probably unable to secure drugs and has decided to retire with other people's money.

We need some new domestic vendors, ASAP.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: clownbaby on February 24, 2013, 01:47 pm

I feel sorry for those who have lost. I always felt he was a thief even when he was here. Let's hope its the end of fucking people with unusually high prices.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 24, 2013, 01:56 pm

The price drop did catch my eye for the same reason, also given ETM normally only had a limited supply from week to week it should have registered louder offering a sale over a long period, I also recall one off hand post re asking for FE but apart from that nothing really until this morning when the complaints starting to pop up. Been too busy with all the other dramas with the roll back, missing BTC and withdrawal/deposit issues to track this properly.

Fuck it I'm sure this will get pulled to pieces over the coming weeks and months now, just goes to show you can never trust anyone fully on here and reinforces the need for everyone to follow the buyers guide and never FE, not for anyone EVER.

Sorry for everyone who has been burned.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: xhaman on February 24, 2013, 02:09 pm

I FE'd for a gram of freebase DMT, so looks like I've lost $240 there (Fuck). I've got an order in process at the moment though for 100 hits of LSD, I haven't FE'd on it. Is there any way that I can cancel the order for that listing and not lose all of those bitcoins, or am I doomed to watch them slowly leave my sight?

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: xhaman on February 24, 2013, 02:23 pm

Looks like ETM's listings just got taken down. He left a rather nasty statement before it got shut down though on his profile.
“But, the game’s out there, and it’s play or get played. That simple.”

Here's to hoping I can get my money back for buying 100 hits of LSD (I didn't FE, so I think I should be right? Never had this happen to me before...)

This is a sad day for the road. :(

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Fallkniven on February 24, 2013, 02:26 pm

well, you can be assured ETM has read this thread...

from ETM forum profile...

"
Local Time:    24 February 2013, 14:18:06
Last Active:    Today at 14:12:52
"

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 24, 2013, 02:31 pm

Quote from: xhaman on February 24, 2013, 02:09 pm

I FE'd for a gram of freebase DMT, so looks like I've lost $240 there (Fuck). I've got an order in process at the moment though for 100 hits of LSD, I haven't FE'd on it. Is there any way that I can cancel the order for that listing and not lose all of those bitcoins, or am I doomed to watch them slowly leave my sight?

after 4 days you may cancel your own order. however i would be stunned if SR admins have not suspended his account by the time we wake up this morning.

etm your a fucking dog you benjew cunt, i hope you get stabbed in the throat you fucking cunt.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Fallkniven on February 24, 2013, 02:39 pm

“But, the game’s out there, and it’s play or get played. That simple.”

thats Omar from 'The Wire' back in 2002

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: AussieMitch on February 24, 2013, 02:50 pm

I was suss on him as soon as his MDMA and Bubbles dropped in price.

Why would you sell MDMA or Bubbles online for half the price you could sell it for IRL? There's no way you'd go to the effort of importing from overseas and sell pure gear at those prices.

Also, his ATM cards were suspicious as all hell. Who would trust all their drug money to an anonymous guy on Silk Road when they could spend 30 minutes on Google and figure out how to do it themselves?

My guess is he's taken all the money from the cards he's sold people as well. He was probably just waiting until the total balances on all the cards were high enough to blow his forum account off with this stunt and take everyone's cash.

This should be a lesson to everyone not to FE domestically, to beware of any kind of 'sale' and to not buy into bullshit marketing tactics and hype like what you see if you go through ETM's listings. When I buy any kind of bulk from a vendor, I always exchange a couple of messages with them first and start with some smaller orders. If they don't answer, give me stock answers or I get ANY kind of bad gut feeling, I find someone else to buy through instead. And never, never, NEVER will I ever FE for a domestic purchase.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Doc_Tryptamine on February 24, 2013, 04:19 pm

I feel bad for you aussies, the prices that guy was selling shit for was insane.

Seriously, at those prices I already knew he was a major fuckin douche.

Not surprising he would just say fuck it and scam everyone....lesson learned, never ever ever FE.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: antw082 on February 24, 2013, 04:30 pm

I first noticed something strange with ETM when I sent him a private messaged 6 days ago about one of his listing (200mg DMT).

I advised him that he had forgotten to add a postage option - which was prevent me (and others) from ordering that item.

He never responded to my message. He never bothered to fix the listing.

I remembered thinking that it odd that someone with his reputation would not have done anything at all.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: pinkkush on February 24, 2013, 04:47 pm

i hate to rub salt in all of your wounds.. but.. YOU SHOULD LISTEN and this won't happen

DO NOT FE. EVER. FOR ANY GOD DAMN PERSON for any reason. come on people, quit being dumbasses. the excuse "hes superdy duperdy trusted" is a bullshit one, as demonstrated by ETM!

a fool and his money easily part.

edit: and it sounds like he just started to ask for FE out of the blue when he never did so before? COME ON people.. does that not throw up a red flag to you??

in fact- silk road needs to BAN FE for good. no more FE ever. if a vendor can't afford to have his money tied up for a week or so, then he can take his product elsewhere. why should a vendor have access to my money immediately when i dont have access to the product for a week?

i have NEVER finalized early. i also have NEVER been scammed. coincidence? no.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: antw082 on February 24, 2013, 05:08 pm

I agree with the advice voiced by many (including by SR) on avoiding FE and sticking to the escrow system.

However, I do not believe it is as clear cut / simple as: people who FE are stupid / idiots / don't read advice.

The problem is that newbies with little / no purchasing stats don't really have much luxury of choice. This is especially true for Aussies who have a very limited number of vendors willing to supply this region. Most overseas vendors either flat out refused to delivery to Australia, or they insist on FE without exception.

Which leaves us to deal with ETM who charge high premiums and has evidently now gone rogue with a lot of peoples money.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Bundy on February 24, 2013, 06:31 pm

I agree with  antw082
The big problem is that so far few vendors have retired, because sk only been two years running ... but in the future, many of the current vendors will be withdrawn and some fags will follow the example of matrix. If only removes FE, new buyers will be forced to buy informally through private message without even the right to give feedback. The only way to avoid it is to remove the FE and punish the seller who requests.

And if a newbie buyer says a reputable seller is a scammer or a package does not arrive ... then the center of resolution should give all the deposit in scrow to the seller, but delayed as long as necessary to be sure there are no other similar cases, then the situation might be reconsidered and give 100% of the deposit to the buyer if required. It's the only way to avoid massive scams

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: pinkkush on February 24, 2013, 07:30 pm

Quote from: Bundy on February 24, 2013, 06:31 pm

I agree with  antw082
The big problem is that so far few vendors have retired, because sk only been two years running ... but in the future, many of the current vendors will be withdrawn and some fags will follow the example of matrix. If only removes FE, new buyers will be forced to buy informally through private message without even the right to give feedback. The only way to avoid it is to remove the FE and punish the seller who requests.

And if a newbie buyer says a reputable seller is a scammer or a package does not arrive ... then the center of resolution should give all the deposit in scrow to the seller, but delayed as long as necessary to be sure there are no other similar cases, then the situation might be reconsidered and give 100% of the deposit to the buyer if required. It's the only way to avoid massive scams

the real way to avoid massive scams is.. wait for it....

NOT TO FE! damn, what a concept. also, i dont really see how its a "big problem" that few vendors have retired.

the biggest argument from those who FE is that they are new and are "required" to by the vendor. bullshit. go buy a few ebooks for 0.01 bitcoin and get a few transactions under your belt. ive never had to FE and i was most certainly new at one point.

the problem with your second suggestion is that is promotes selective scamming- majorly. if a vendor knows that if only 1 person reports not getting something, and that person is new, that vendor will selectively scam that person because resolution would release their money and no other complaints would come in (because it was a selective scam). so the vendor gets off free because the incident gets chalked up to a "scamming new buyer."

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 24, 2013, 08:15 pm

It is all too easy to sit back and see all the signs were there now but ETM timed this perfectly, will all the other distractions going on right now with missing bit coins, people unable to withdraw or make deposits even those like myself who got an inkling something didn't feel right it didn't fully register.

ETM had been around for nearly as long as SR itself and were a top 1% vendor, they were masters at shameless self promotion and worked the market to their advantage providing an expensive but extremely reliable service. Even those who didn't like their methods had to give them credit for achieving what they had.

I think the fact no one really saw this coming and those that did still didn't really say anything just goes to show how much credibility these guys had built up over time.

If it's too good to be true it is, this will undoubtedly be a very painful lesson for many aussies who are asked to FE more than any other country and choosing not too can often mean choosing not to buy on SR. Domestic though should NEVER require FE and I think from this point forward people should vote with their wallets and avoid domestic AU vendors that request FE. Ultimately we get the vendors we deserve, if we put up with these shitty practices that is what we will get.

NO FE = NO SCAM

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Bundy on February 24, 2013, 08:26 pm

Quote from: pinkkush on February 24, 2013, 07:30 pm

Quote from: Bundy on February 24, 2013, 06:31 pm

I agree with  antw082
The big problem is that so far few vendors have retired, because sk only been two years running ... but in the future, many of the current vendors will be withdrawn and some fags will follow the example of matrix. If only removes FE, new buyers will be forced to buy informally through private message without even the right to give feedback. The only way to avoid it is to remove the FE and punish the seller who requests.

And if a newbie buyer says a reputable seller is a scammer or a package does not arrive ... then the center of resolution should give all the deposit in scrow to the seller, but delayed as long as necessary to be sure there are no other similar cases, then the situation might be reconsidered and give 100% of the deposit to the buyer if required. It's the only way to avoid massive scams

the real way to avoid massive scams is.. wait for it....

NOT TO FE! damn, what a concept. also, i dont really see how its a "big problem" that few vendors have retired.

the biggest argument from those who FE is that they are new and are "required" to by the vendor. bullshit. go buy a few ebooks for 0.01 bitcoin and get a few transactions under your belt. ive never had to FE and i was most certainly new at one point.

the problem with your second suggestion is that is promotes selective scamming- majorly. if a vendor knows that if only 1 person reports not getting something, and that person is new, that vendor will selectively scam that person because resolution would release their money and no other complaints would come in (because it was a selective scam). so the vendor gets off free because the incident gets chalked up to a "scamming new buyer."

My first purchase was with googledye, then buy 3 books and my reputation was 4 purchases, but only 0.4 bitcoins spent. The best options I had to buy lsd required me FE, and it seems reasonable because only needed to say has not arrived, get my 50% and create me another account. I do not think it is good for a business who a seller defraud new buyer because they are free to give feedback and comment on the forums (if they have more than 50 post), and although the seller says they are only scamming new buyer, or competition trying of soiling its image, however other newbies would not feel very confident of buying

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Bundy on February 24, 2013, 08:49 pm

if I'm a new buyer and my order does not arrive, would understand that give 100% escrow to the seller, I can accept that risk... that seems better than giving FE, because if I wait two or three weeks and the package does not arrive, and there are other "new buyers" who have problems, then the complaint would take a lot more credibility.

not enough to say "never FE"  if the vendors are going to keep doing

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: vb5piz3r on February 25, 2013, 12:27 am

First post, however I have been here since the end of OVDB. While I have not lost anything as a result of ETM's decision to defraud the SR community of thousands of dollars, I personally want to see SR to flourish, and by doing so discourage future vendors from following suit. So I am going to start my own part in what I see as an attempt to aid the SR community.

I have matching finger prints from within 2 of several packages that I have purchased from ETM over time. As of this morning with the help of Australia Post I have tracked the point of sale of every individual express post letter that I have also received, which have mostly been from different locations, however am investigating the possibility he purchased his packaging goods from eBay, trying to cross reference all the materials I know he used with past sales to see any matching usernames.  Knowing a two of his international suppliers over time, I am in correspondence with one (who will stay anonymous) in an attempt to ascertain drop ship addresses. Not knowing much about BTC myself I have forwarded all his known wallets to someone that does in the case that some information can be established.

In my experience, a good private investigator; whom being more efficient than the police as they will work outside the boundaries of the law to complete a case, have found names with less information. If you have a criminal record, I have will your name in two weeks.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: OzFreelancer on February 25, 2013, 12:53 am

Quote from: vb5piz3r on February 25, 2013, 12:27 am

First post, however I have been here since the end of OVDB. While I have not lost anything as a result of ETM's decision to defraud the SR community of thousands of dollars, I personally want to see SR to flourish, and by doing so discourage future vendors from following suit. So I am going to start my own part in what I see as an attempt to aid the SR community.

I have matching finger prints from within 2 of several packages that I have purchased from ETM over time. As of this morning with the help of Australia Post I have tracked the point of sale of every individual express post letter that I have also received, which have mostly been from different locations, however am investigating the possibility he purchased his packaging goods from eBay, trying to cross reference all the materials I know he used with past sales to see any matching usernames.  Knowing a two of his international suppliers over time, I am in correspondence with one (who will stay anonymous) in an attempt to ascertain drop ship addresses. Not knowing much about BTC myself I have forwarded all his known wallets to someone that does in the case that some information can be established.

In my experience, a good private investigator; whom being more efficient than the police as they will work outside the boundaries of the law to complete a case, have found names with less information. If you have a criminal record, I have will your name in two weeks.

This post raises an ethical dilemma for SR. I wonder if their position on doxing changes in this kind of situation? I doubt it

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 01:16 am

Quote from: vb5piz3r on February 25, 2013, 12:27 am

First post, however I have been here since the end of OVDB. While I have not lost anything as a result of ETM's decision to defraud the SR community of thousands of dollars, I personally want to see SR to flourish, and by doing so discourage future vendors from following suit. So I am going to start my own part in what I see as an attempt to aid the SR community.

I have matching finger prints from within 2 of several packages that I have purchased from ETM over time. As of this morning with the help of Australia Post I have tracked the point of sale of every individual express post letter that I have also received, which have mostly been from different locations, however am investigating the possibility he purchased his packaging goods from eBay, trying to cross reference all the materials I know he used with past sales to see any matching usernames.  Knowing a two of his international suppliers over time, I am in correspondence with one (who will stay anonymous) in an attempt to ascertain drop ship addresses. Not knowing much about BTC myself I have forwarded all his known wallets to someone that does in the case that some information can be established.

In my experience, a good private investigator; whom being more efficient than the police as they will work outside the boundaries of the law to complete a case, have found names with less information. If you have a criminal record, I have will your name in two weeks.

awesome stuff.
if you really have his fingers prints, and can get his dox, i would be passing that straight onto his local police, and the AFP.
they got shadh, but he was noob, i can only imagine them barring up at the thought of catching this prick. i for one have NO problem doxing matrix.

this is karma, and he seemed to pride himself on karma and people getting what they put out.. well matrix, you might just get whats coming.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 01:20 am

Those finger prints could be anyones. ???

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: antw082 on February 25, 2013, 01:26 am

Some vigilante justice - I like it! Although, I would hold off on revealing too much info at this stage. It is quiet likely that EnterTheMatrix (ETM) is floating around the forums using a shill account to check out the fallout of his latest heist.

I think SR should put in some processes / systems in place to prevent / protect / reduce harm done by vendors that decide to pull a 'last act'  like ETM (and tony76 before him).

The fact of the matter is this:

Every single vendor is eventually (for various reasons) going to exit the SR market.

It maybe 3 months, it maybe 2 year, but it is only a matter of time.

Greed, anonymity, opportunity, faceless victims and lack of consequences will tempt a lot of vendors to make their 'last act' an act of fraud.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: OzFreelancer on February 25, 2013, 01:30 am

Quote from: antw082 link=topic=124539.msg856185#msg856185 date=

I think SR should put in some processes / systems in place to prevent / protect / reduce harm done by vendors that decide to pull a 'last act'  like ETM (and tony76 before him).

They have. It's called escrow

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 01:30 am

matching fingerprints on multiple packages, which was suggested were bought from different locations, to me, would indicate someone who was part of the matrix crew, or the one person himself.
plus if one of the suppliers is willing to drop info, that will help build a bigger profile.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: vb5piz3r on February 25, 2013, 01:32 am

@shiznit
I am no snitch. Information won't be going to LE, as ETM said himself "But, the game’s out there, and it’s play or get played." There are other options.

@jnemonic
Perhaps, but two separate packages with matching fingerprints from inside the package does most likely lead to someone who at least had some involvement in the shipping of the items.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 01:36 am

This doesn't surprise me, i have stayed away from this cunt since being on SR. I mean the prices he was selling stock is the reason why so many of the prices for local aussie product is so high. He seemed to legit to care and my sensors were ringing with this cunt..and it seems he scammed SR so well..one things for sure we don't have to put up with those annoying thread ads.

He basically was ripping people of even when he was a legit vendor and yet people flocked to him.

Cunt/s will get their own back and i hope someone hunts him/her/them down and flogs the shit out of them.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 01:41 am

Ah ok, if the prints were inside the packages then thats different.

Off subject, but just noticed this listing for 1gram of mdma...tell me would you pay this? ??? http://silkroadvb5piz3r.onion/silkroad/item/1d10008308

Has only been vending for 2 months. $265.87. Ridiculous price. I bought 2grams of molly for only $60 the other week and it was insane.

That price is suss, or just plain greedy. Yeah just greedy, not asking for FE on it, but a very rude price i must say.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 01:48 am

Why didn't people stay away from him? Why were people prepared to pay 100 bucks for 10 xanax? I was so shocked when i first saw his listings yet he was making a fortune.

No wonder he scammed SR..i mean if you have people willing to buy prescription meds at 100% mark up..well anythings possible!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 01:48 am

vb5piz3r fair play mate. i respect that and generally speaking i agree snitchin is a dog act.

while its fun bashing, kneecapping & robbing. i personally feel in this case, nothing would be more fun than throwing matrix into the system just for the lulz and media hype.
however, im a geek, not a gangster, so i don't live by the criminal code.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 01:51 am

I agree..fuck this criminal code..the cunt should go to jail just for the prices he was charging alone. And for the annoying way he managed to always fit in a an ad with every post.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 02:02 am

Im safe i wasnt stupid enough to pay massive overs for shitty product like most.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: scout on February 25, 2013, 02:05 am

I feel like snitching on him would have seriously negative repercussions for more than just ETM.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: antw082 on February 25, 2013, 02:07 am

Quote from: OzFreelancer on February 25, 2013, 01:30 am

They have. It's called escrow

Yes there is the escrow. I personally have built up a decent purchasing stat and have never had to FE.

But as I said before, a good deal of vendors demand FE for newbies or shipments to Australia. Given no alternatives, there are always going to be people who will take the risk of FE.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 02:14 am

Quote from: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 01:59 am

Quote from: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 01:48 am

vb5piz3r fair play mate. i respect that and generally speaking i agree snitchin is a dog act.

while its fun bashing, kneecapping & robbing. i personally feel in this case, nothing would be more fun than throwing matrix into the system just for the lulz and media hype.
however, im a geek, not a gangster, so i don't live by the criminal code.

How do we know if etm  didnt keep records of all customers? If they go down, i bet they'll take some people down with them...

Its a very paranoid statement i know, but yeah what if.... :-\

yes, thats a very good point. and i could see that cunt keeping addresses just to cope out a deal with LE to lesser charges. at the end of the day, this is SR, this is anonymous drugs in the post, breaking state/commonwealth law. if you give vendors your REAL address, or one that leads back to you, then you are asking for trouble and clearly have not thought things through.
you cannot trust ANYONE. no matter how long they been around. whats to stop a vendor blackmailing you? infact im surprised matrix didnt start doing that as well!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: asphyx on February 25, 2013, 02:33 am

Quote from: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 02:14 am

Quote from: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 01:59 am

Quote from: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 01:48 am

vb5piz3r fair play mate. i respect that and generally speaking i agree snitchin is a dog act.

while its fun bashing, kneecapping & robbing. i personally feel in this case, nothing would be more fun than throwing matrix into the system just for the lulz and media hype.
however, im a geek, not a gangster, so i don't live by the criminal code.

How do we know if etm  didnt keep records of all customers? If they go down, i bet they'll take some people down with them...

Its a very paranoid statement i know, but yeah what if.... :-\

yes, thats a very good point. and i could see that cunt keeping addresses just to cope out a deal with LE to lesser charges. at the end of the day, this is SR, this is anonymous drugs in the post, breaking state/commonwealth law. if you give vendors your REAL address, or one that leads back to you, then you are asking for trouble and clearly have not thought things through.
you cannot trust ANYONE. no matter how long they been around. whats to stop a vendor blackmailing you? infact im surprised matrix didnt start doing that as well!

I think you're being overly paranoid now. It's true that you can't trust anyone here, but there's not much incentive for vendors to do anything with buyer addresses. Especially since they can never be sure it's not just a different name/address you are giving them.

LE wouldn't really give a shit about going after buyers, it's only worth going after vendors. And how would they blackmail you with your address anyway?

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: pbody88 on February 25, 2013, 02:35 am

Quote from: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 01:59 am

Quote from: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 01:48 am

vb5piz3r fair play mate. i respect that and generally speaking i agree snitchin is a dog act.

while its fun bashing, kneecapping & robbing. i personally feel in this case, nothing would be more fun than throwing matrix into the system just for the lulz and media hype.
however, im a geek, not a gangster, so i don't live by the criminal code.

How do we know if etm  didnt keep records of all customers? If they go down, i bet they'll take some people down with them...

Its a very paranoid statement i know, but yeah what if.... :-\

But what are the cops gonna do ? visit every address hoping they still have some product left ?

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 02:42 am

Quote from: pbody88 on February 25, 2013, 02:35 am

Quote from: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 01:59 am

Quote from: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 01:48 am

vb5piz3r fair play mate. i respect that and generally speaking i agree snitchin is a dog act.

while its fun bashing, kneecapping & robbing. i personally feel in this case, nothing would be more fun than throwing matrix into the system just for the lulz and media hype.
however, im a geek, not a gangster, so i don't live by the criminal code.

How do we know if etm  didnt keep records of all customers? If they go down, i bet they'll take some people down with them...

Its a very paranoid statement i know, but yeah what if.... :-\

But what are the cops gonna do ? visit every address hoping they still have some product left ?

for the bulk orders perhaps.... but unlikely.
maybe just flag those addresses and cross reference them with anything they catch coming into the country.
or just keep the info for future reference incase they manage to take anyone else down.

only le know how they are dealing with this whole sr situation. its still quite new to them i would think.
we can only put on our tinfoil hats and hazard a guess at what we think might be happening.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 02:43 am

I actually deleted that post where i mentioned about vendor keeping addys.

It was a selective scam for sure, because i thought if they were under pressure, etc, they would have just split.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 02:53 am

Quote from: asphyx on February 25, 2013, 02:33 am

Quote from: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 02:14 am

Quote from: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 01:59 am

Quote from: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 01:48 am

vb5piz3r fair play mate. i respect that and generally speaking i agree snitchin is a dog act.

while its fun bashing, kneecapping & robbing. i personally feel in this case, nothing would be more fun than throwing matrix into the system just for the lulz and media hype.
however, im a geek, not a gangster, so i don't live by the criminal code.

How do we know if etm  didnt keep records of all customers? If they go down, i bet they'll take some people down with them...

Its a very paranoid statement i know, but yeah what if.... :-\

yes, thats a very good point. and i could see that cunt keeping addresses just to cope out a deal with LE to lesser charges. at the end of the day, this is SR, this is anonymous drugs in the post, breaking state/commonwealth law. if you give vendors your REAL address, or one that leads back to you, then you are asking for trouble and clearly have not thought things through.
you cannot trust ANYONE. no matter how long they been around. whats to stop a vendor blackmailing you? infact im surprised matrix didnt start doing that as well!

I think you're being overly paranoid now. It's true that you can't trust anyone here, but there's not much incentive for vendors to do anything with buyer addresses. Especially since they can never be sure it's not just a different name/address you are giving them.

LE wouldn't really give a shit about going after buyers, it's only worth going after vendors. And how would they blackmail you with your address anyway?

ofcourse its a paranoid statement. does not mean its not possible. yes your correct the vendor will not know if its a burn address, or your real one, but why would they even care? they are trying to extort money from you.
its happened before, and no doubt it will happen again.  vendors threaten to post usernames and dox on forums in order to blackmail people. infact it happened last week, not sure it was over money, but buyers claiming shit wares.. the vendor posted 10 u/names and dox.
although, now with the price of vendor accounts, this certain scam does not happen as often as it used to.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shermit on February 25, 2013, 02:58 am

crap! now i wish i had reported them last week  :-[

the request for FE got me suspicious first - i had dealt with them before and have a perfect buyer record. when i pointed that out, their new excuse was that they didn't want too much BTC in escrow ?! once i pointed out it was a hedged order and hinted at reporting them to SR, they agreed to play ball so i dropped it - my sincerest apologies  :-[

i'm just stressing about getting my money out of escrow without screwing up my stats now :/

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: comx on February 25, 2013, 03:09 am

Hey all, last week was my maiden voyage on SR  - you guessed it.....I ordered from ETM
I ordered last Tuesday, it hasn't arrived ( guessing it never will ) I haven't finalized - where should i look for info on trying re securing my spent BC? any advice would be greatly appreciated.

ahhh that wonderful" freshly burnt noob" feeling never gets old :)  gotta laugh I guess

cheers
comx

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

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Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: asphyx on February 25, 2013, 03:36 am

ROFL pbody that was great.  ;D

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nanpa2001 on February 25, 2013, 03:48 am

Good one, pbody88. I sent some karma your way.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 03:54 am

i have even better than fingerprints!

i orderd from fuckin ETM about 3 weeks ago and the order arrived wth no problems only thing is he fucked up!

inside the pieces of papers that was wrapped around the vacuum sealed molly was a electricity bill in a mans name from Energex electricity which matches to the express shipping location which was qld and think exactly brisbane. i messaged etm at the time and told him and he was trying to play it cool but then he wrote back to me and said he will refund my money for the order if i make sure i destroy the document. i trusted him at the time and i did what he said but i made sure i wrote down the name and address before i did it :D that's where he is fucked........

and now i have messaged him and said if he doesn't pay 300 btc to my btc address then im gonna fucking release it here on the forums..........

ETM I AM SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS IF U DONT PAY ME THE BTC YOU RECEIVED MY MESSAGES AND READ THEM AND NOW U CAN READ IT HERE CUNT

YOU HAVE EXACTLY 48 HRS TO RELEASE THE BTC

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: antw082 on February 25, 2013, 03:55 am

Careful pbody88, ETM might sue you for Trademark infringement!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 04:04 am

OoOoOo this is going to get good!

But bad karma for you trying to scam a scammer from money he scammed of others.

Maybe you should distribute..but i can't see it happening.

What a massive fuck up that is..

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 04:06 am

BTW you should make a new thread so he see's it.

And put up the addy BUT bloack out most details and leave some random letters/numbers so he knows you are not fucking with him.

And send him a PM with the addy.

Man this should be fun..karma matrix.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: dex on February 25, 2013, 04:10 am

Quote from: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 03:54 am

i have even better than fingerprints!

i orderd from fuckin ETM about 3 weeks ago and the order arrived wth no problems only thing is he fucked up!

inside the pieces of papers that was wrapped around the vacuum sealed molly was a electricity bill in a mans name from Energex electricity which matches to the express shipping location which was qld and think exactly brisbane. i messaged etm at the time and told him and he was trying to play it cool but then he wrote back to me and said he will refund my money for the order if i make sure i destroy the document. i trusted him at the time and i did what he said but i made sure i wrote down the name and address before i did it :D that's where he is fucked........

and now i have messaged him and said if he doesn't pay 300 btc to my btc address then im gonna fucking release it here on the forums..........

ETM I AM SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS IF U DONT PAY ME THE BTC YOU RECEIVED MY MESSAGES AND READ THEM AND NOW U CAN READ IT HERE CUNT

YOU HAVE EXACTLY 48 HRS TO RELEASE THE BTC

He probably has your address too

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 04:11 am

Not if he sued a fake one. FWIW i havent used my real addy once on the road..not worth it not matter what anyone says.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: asphyx on February 25, 2013, 04:12 am

Quote from: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 03:54 am

i have even better than fingerprints!

i orderd from fuckin ETM about 3 weeks ago and the order arrived wth no problems only thing is he fucked up!

inside the pieces of papers that was wrapped around the vacuum sealed molly was a electricity bill in a mans name from Energex electricity which matches to the express shipping location which was qld and think exactly brisbane. i messaged etm at the time and told him and he was trying to play it cool but then he wrote back to me and said he will refund my money for the order if i make sure i destroy the document. i trusted him at the time and i did what he said but i made sure i wrote down the name and address before i did it :D that's where he is fucked........

and now i have messaged him and said if he doesn't pay 300 btc to my btc address then im gonna fucking release it here on the forums..........

ETM I AM SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS IF U DONT PAY ME THE BTC YOU RECEIVED MY MESSAGES AND READ THEM AND NOW U CAN READ IT HERE CUNT

YOU HAVE EXACTLY 48 HRS TO RELEASE THE BTC

SHIT JUST GOT REAL. (assuming you're telling the truth)

This is turning out to be very interesting, to say the least.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: OzFreelancer on February 25, 2013, 04:34 am

It seems to me that doxing is a far greater crime against the Silk Road philosophy than scamming people by convincing them to operate outside of the recommended guidelines, scummy though that may be

YMMV

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 04:38 am

Excuse my ignorance, but whats doxing?

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: asphyx on February 25, 2013, 04:47 am

Quote from: chainz on February 25, 2013, 04:38 am

Excuse my ignorance, but whats doxing?

Tracing/releasing someone's personal information (usually addresses and telephone numbers) via the internet.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: GUS on February 25, 2013, 04:49 am

If this is real (i dont think it is)

you should release it and fuck this cunt up..

To a legit vendor, i would say no.. But any scamming cunts.. track them down and fuck them up! give all information you have on this scamming cunt up to the community to decide his fate ;)

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 04:53 am

I think he deserves to be exposed on a few fronts

a) the massive 100% mark up he put on everything
b) being an annoying cunt on these forums and spamming his warez..fuck it was annoying
c) For scamming the way he did and then writing that message thinking he was being clever.

These 3 reasons alone should get this cunt exposed.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nanpa2001 on February 25, 2013, 05:01 am

Quote from: chainz on February 25, 2013, 04:53 am

a) the massive 100% mark up he put on everything

100%? LOL it was much more than that. A bad situation but this is good news, really. Australian vendors will have a chance to reinvent themselves.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 05:07 am

Quote from: OzFreelancer on February 25, 2013, 04:34 am

It seems to me that doxing is a far greater crime against the Silk Road philosophy than scamming people by convincing them to operate outside of the recommended guidelines, scummy though that may be

YMMV

i have to be honest, that is utter shit.. you premeditate a scam like this, you deserve everything that the sr community can do.
and come on, really, the silk road philosophy, what is that? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is all that is. the sr philosophy got real blurry about 12 months ago.
just like etm. it all comes down to how much money they can put in their pockets. you kid yourself to even think that it was about the freedom of choice.

damn chainz, said it perfect. fuck he spammed his shit everywhere, if i had a dollar for every damn time he spammed i could retire

CHEAP CHEAP 40% OFF RRP my bullshit brownsugar cut mdma.
get fucked you benjew cunt, RRP on drugs? fuck that nigha needs to be put in his place.

dox / doxing = releasing someones infomation... name, address, phone number, facebookpage, pictues. it links that person to the online alias.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 05:14 am

As much as i want ETM to get caught and have his nuts chopped off...i don't blame him at all for the scamming.

Seriously think about it..he kept increasing prices to unrealistic prices and people still kept going to him.

-  He held weekly bullshit lotto..i mean WTF was that all about..yet people still bought a number and played.
-  He cut his molly and charged 4 times for it and people still bought despite having better local options
- His blotters were shit and he was called out about it on SR forums and people still went back.
- I am sure he created a lot of fake feedback.
- His benzo prices were fucken insane, not even a street vendor charged that much for benzos yet people still bought them

I mean the cunt must have just sat there laughing at all the orders coming in. No wonder he scammed..and was able to do it easily.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 05:16 am

Oh and he sold ATM cards..which i know not much of..but fuck what a perfect scam..and people bought it off him.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: antw082 on February 25, 2013, 05:26 am

Quote from: chainz on February 25, 2013, 04:04 am

But bad karma for you trying to scam a scammer from money he scammed of others.

I agree with chainz.

Even if ETM does agree to pay for your silence, he will be paying you with BTC he scammed off people on the SR community.

Either release the information freely (and get some good Karma from the community). Or, please refrain from posting your distasteful behavior on the forums.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 05:29 am

Scam him for more, keep 10% and then agree to pay everybody a few coins back...just so everybody gets compensated equally.

How you would do it i don't know but it's the least you can do.

Oh and then release his info.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 05:41 am

Quote from: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 03:54 am

i have even better than fingerprints!

i orderd from fuckin ETM about 3 weeks ago and the order arrived wth no problems only thing is he fucked up!

inside the pieces of papers that was wrapped around the vacuum sealed molly was a electricity bill in a mans name from Energex electricity which matches to the express shipping location which was qld and think exactly brisbane. i messaged etm at the time and told him and he was trying to play it cool but then he wrote back to me and said he will refund my money for the order if i make sure i destroy the document. i trusted him at the time and i did what he said but i made sure i wrote down the name and address before i did it :D that's where he is fucked........

and now i have messaged him and said if he doesn't pay 300 btc to my btc address then im gonna fucking release it here on the forums..........

ETM I AM SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS IF U DONT PAY ME THE BTC YOU RECEIVED MY MESSAGES AND READ THEM AND NOW U CAN READ IT HERE CUNT

YOU HAVE EXACTLY 48 HRS TO RELEASE THE BTC

im wondering if your story if true may be the reason he's done a runner.. cos you got his dox so he decided to clean up shop and get teh fuck out of dodge

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: antw082 on February 25, 2013, 05:54 am

All this is idle speculation unless some hard evidence appears.

What we do know is that ETM committed premeditated fraud for at least a week now.

His price drops, expansion of product listings & requesting FE was all part of a well laid out plan to capitalise his personal gain by ripping off people who trust him.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 06:02 am

Quote from: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 05:41 am

Quote from: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 03:54 am

i have even better than fingerprints!

i orderd from fuckin ETM about 3 weeks ago and the order arrived wth no problems only thing is he fucked up!

inside the pieces of papers that was wrapped around the vacuum sealed molly was a electricity bill in a mans name from Energex electricity which matches to the express shipping location which was qld and think exactly brisbane. i messaged etm at the time and told him and he was trying to play it cool but then he wrote back to me and said he will refund my money for the order if i make sure i destroy the document. i trusted him at the time and i did what he said but i made sure i wrote down the name and address before i did it :D that's where he is fucked........

and now i have messaged him and said if he doesn't pay 300 btc to my btc address then im gonna fucking release it here on the forums..........

ETM I AM SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS IF U DONT PAY ME THE BTC YOU RECEIVED MY MESSAGES AND READ THEM AND NOW U CAN READ IT HERE CUNT

YOU HAVE EXACTLY 48 HRS TO RELEASE THE BTC

im wondering if your story if true may be the reason he's done a runner.. cos you got his dox so he decided to clean up shop and get teh fuck out of dodge

no........
if this were the case, any vendor with half a brain will know that someone is not going to destroy something like that.
if anything, it would give matrix less incentive to scam, as he would surely know this person would scan and plaster that bill from here to the high heavens for all to see.

time shall tell.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 06:20 am

Quote from: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 03:54 am

i have even better than fingerprints!

i orderd from fuckin ETM about 3 weeks ago and the order arrived wth no problems only thing is he fucked up!

inside the pieces of papers that was wrapped around the vacuum sealed molly was a electricity bill in a mans name from Energex electricity which matches to the express shipping location which was qld and think exactly brisbane. i messaged etm at the time and told him and he was trying to play it cool but then he wrote back to me and said he will refund my money for the order if i make sure i destroy the document. i trusted him at the time and i did what he said but i made sure i wrote down the name and address before i did it :D that's where he is fucked........

and now i have messaged him and said if he doesn't pay 300 btc to my btc address then im gonna fucking release it here on the forums..........

ETM I AM SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS IF U DONT PAY ME THE BTC YOU RECEIVED MY MESSAGES AND READ THEM AND NOW U CAN READ IT HERE CUNT

YOU HAVE EXACTLY 48 HRS TO RELEASE THE BTC

NO REPLY FROM ETM.. SO I'M RELEASING A LITTLE INFORMATION TO SCARE THE CUNT
I COPIED DOWN YOUR FULL NAME + ADDRESS AND THE CUSTOMER NUMBER.... YOU KNOW THIS IS YOUR INFO CUNT THAT'S WHY YOU SHAT YOURSELF...

DIDN'T YOU JASON?  ;D $648.87 WAS YOUR LAST ELECTRICITY BILL, A LITTLE HIGH? MAYBE YOU HAVE A HYDRO SETUP TOO? IF THATS NOT ENOUGH THEN HOW ABOUT YOUR SUBURB?  EVERTON PARK  ;D

NOW U KNOW I'M FOR REAL SO FUCKING PAY UP... ........ YOU HAVE 48 HOURS AND 300 BTC IS MY FEE I ALSO THINK YOU SHOULD PAY ALL THE MONEY YOU SCAMMED BACK TO EVERYONE CAN SOMEONE PROVIDE BTC ADDRESS FOR THIS CUNT TO SEND THE CASH?

I'M NOT SCAMMING HIM JUST FOR MYSELF I WANNA GET YOUR MONEY BACK TOO.

SNOOPS  8)

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 06:26 am

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

looks like the cookie is about to crumble!!!!

matrix 8)8)8)8)8)

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nutbaroriginal on February 25, 2013, 06:29 am

Quote from: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 06:20 am

Quote from: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 03:54 am

i have even better than fingerprints!

i orderd from fuckin ETM about 3 weeks ago and the order arrived wth no problems only thing is he fucked up!

inside the pieces of papers that was wrapped around the vacuum sealed molly was a electricity bill in a mans name from Energex electricity which matches to the express shipping location which was qld and think exactly brisbane. i messaged etm at the time and told him and he was trying to play it cool but then he wrote back to me and said he will refund my money for the order if i make sure i destroy the document. i trusted him at the time and i did what he said but i made sure i wrote down the name and address before i did it :D that's where he is fucked........

and now i have messaged him and said if he doesn't pay 300 btc to my btc address then im gonna fucking release it here on the forums..........

ETM I AM SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS IF U DONT PAY ME THE BTC YOU RECEIVED MY MESSAGES AND READ THEM AND NOW U CAN READ IT HERE CUNT

YOU HAVE EXACTLY 48 HRS TO RELEASE THE BTC

NO REPLY FROM ETM.. SO I'M RELEASING A LITTLE INFORMATION TO SCARE THE CUNT
I COPIED DOWN YOUR FULL NAME + ADDRESS AND THE CUSTOMER NUMBER.... YOU KNOW THIS IS YOUR INFO CUNT THAT'S WHY YOU SHAT YOURSELF...

DIDN'T YOU JASON?  ;D $648.87 WAS YOUR LAST ELECTRICITY BILL, A LITTLE HIGH? MAYBE YOU HAVE A HYDRO SETUP TOO? IF THATS NOT ENOUGH THEN HOW ABOUT YOUR SUBURB?  EVERTON PARK  ;D

NOW U KNOW I'M FOR REAL SO FUCKING PAY UP... ........ YOU HAVE 48 HOURS AND 300 BTC IS MY FEE I ALSO THINK YOU SHOULD PAY ALL THE MONEY YOU SCAMMED BACK TO EVERYONE CAN SOMEONE PROVIDE BTC ADDRESS FOR THIS CUNT TO SEND THE CASH?

I'M NOT SCAMMING HIM JUST FOR MYSELF I WANNA GET YOUR MONEY BACK TOO.

SNOOPS  8)

hahahahaha and here we go....

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: GUS on February 25, 2013, 06:31 am

ETM send the money to the provided wallet.

snoopysnoops gonna do it.. send it!  8)

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: mdmafx on February 25, 2013, 06:37 am

Come on,  I find it hard to believe someone would go to the hassle of vacuum sealing drugs and then  wrapping said drugs in his own utility bill without noticing

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Meatgrinder on February 25, 2013, 06:38 am

What's the chance of getting money back if FE'd? ;(

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: jag123 on February 25, 2013, 06:40 am

Quote from: mdmafx on February 25, 2013, 06:37 am

Come on,  I find it hard to believe someone would go to the hassle of vacuum sealing drugs and then  wrapping said drugs in his own utility bill without noticing

You must not know many stoners . .

But seriously someone kill this scamming mother fucker ripping me off for my birthday weekend :( Only bought from him because it always reached me in 2 days mother fucker!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Pusci on February 25, 2013, 06:42 am

1 of the 2 packages i got from him where from byron bay/north nsw area from what i can remember ? Atleast thats what was labled on the back .

2nd package had no return address.

Honestly tho , how in the hell does a Electricity bill get used in the packing of drugs.. im still not buying this just yet..

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 06:43 am

mdmafx, depends how high he was on his own 250ug lsd tabs hahahaha.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: GUS on February 25, 2013, 06:46 am

Quote from: Meatgrinder on February 25, 2013, 06:38 am

What's the chance of getting money back if FE'd? ;(

none

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: antw082 on February 25, 2013, 06:48 am

Quote from: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 06:43 am

mdmafx, depends how high he was on his own 250ug lsd tabs hahahaha.

So not that high then, haha!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Boyd Crowder on February 25, 2013, 06:55 am

Quote from: mdmafx on February 25, 2013, 06:37 am

Come on,  I find it hard to believe someone would go to the hassle of vacuum sealing drugs and then  wrapping said drugs in his own utility bill without noticing

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if snoopy is etm trying to throw people off. If you are desperate to track him down your best chance is asking Limetless or Symbiosis, they were reg suppliers for him. If Limetless still has an address he would give it up in a heartbeat, for the right price of course. I doubt that someone like etm would be ordering to an address that could be traced back to him though. If you got scammed the money is gone. Don't FE and you will never have the problem. Very few items on SR that can't be sourced from a vendor who allows you to stay in escrow.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 25, 2013, 07:00 am

Quote from: pbody88 on February 25, 2013, 03:27 am

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Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 07:07 am

hey gus im gonna send him another email now with my last message to make sure the cunt knows im serious and we mean biznass! just wanna make sure which btc address is best to get him to send all the stolen btc to??? coz someone will have to divy it up i guess maybe sr? also i googled the address and it is just a normal looking block in da suburbs wioith a big yardd its very clear and easy to find but i dont live in brisbane so i dunno about the areas theree. this is definetly the cunts detailss as like i said he was acting cool about it first saying noway it's his and then i told him the namee and he offereed to "comp" my order of 25inbome and he sent the btc to me direct! hahaha

the order was wrapped inside a load of papers most of them blanks but there was a harvey normal catalogue and then the 2 page ENERGEX bill which i googled and forsure is the local comapny for his area and yes i know there is probly more than one of em but atleast could pump this cunt for information.

any other ways we can confirm the ocations? like i said i googled mapped it and its all bookmarked read to release....

and what about the btc addy for the scammed money to divy up?

HERE THAT JASON!?!?!?  ;D ;D ;D READY TO RELEASE IF U DONT PAY MY FEE 300BTC AND SEND THE SCAMMED BTC TO THESE GUYS BTC ADDY

snoopy :D

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: vb5piz3r on February 25, 2013, 07:17 am

^ DISINFO GTFO

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 25, 2013, 07:19 am

Quote from: Boyd Crowder on February 25, 2013, 06:55 am

Quote from: mdmafx on February 25, 2013, 06:37 am

Come on,  I find it hard to believe someone would go to the hassle of vacuum sealing drugs and then  wrapping said drugs in his own utility bill without noticing

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if snoopy is etm trying to throw people off. If you are desperate to track him down your best chance is asking Limetless or Symbiosis, they were reg suppliers for him. If Limetless still has an address he would give it up in a heartbeat, for the right price of course. I doubt that someone like etm would be ordering to an address that could be traced back to him though. If you got scammed the money is gone. Don't FE and you will never have the problem. Very few items on SR that can't be sourced from a vendor who allows you to stay in escrow.

Lets see if snoopy runs a power ball lotto with the 300btc when ETM coughs up the coins.

Seriously I can't believe anyone is biting on this, an electricity bill, really?

ETM's expressed orders where post stamped in NSW anyway, yawn.

*gets some popcorn just in case*

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: jag123 on February 25, 2013, 07:21 am

Quote from: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 07:07 am

hey gus im gonna send him another email now with my last message to make sure the cunt knows im serious and we mean biznass! just wanna make sure which btc address is best to get him to send all the stolen btc to??? coz someone will have to divy it up i guess maybe sr? also i googled the address and it is just a normal looking block in da suburbs wioith a big yardd its very clear and easy to find but i dont live in brisbane so i dunno about the areas theree. this is definetly the cunts detailss as like i said he was acting cool about it first saying noway it's his and then i told him the namee and he offereed to "comp" my order of 25inbome and he sent the btc to me direct! hahaha

the order was wrapped inside a load of papers most of them blanks but there was a harvey normal catalogue and then the 2 page ENERGEX bill which i googled and forsure is the local comapny for his area and yes i know there is probly more than one of em but atleast could pump this cunt for information.

any other ways we can confirm the ocations? like i said i googled mapped it and its all bookmarked read to release....

and what about the btc addy for the scammed money to divy up?

HERE THAT JASON!?!?!?  ;D ;D ;D READY TO RELEASE IF U DONT PAY MY FEE 300BTC AND SEND THE SCAMMED BTC TO THESE GUYS BTC ADDY

snoopy :D

Post a screenscap of these messages with him? Blur out anything private

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 07:21 am

Quote from: vb5piz3r on February 25, 2013, 07:17 am

^ DISINFO GTFO

and what the fuck are you doing to help? sure i want to make some btc but i also will help others get it back as i ahve the power to do so  ;D

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 07:27 am

Quote from: samesamebutdifferent on February 25, 2013, 07:19 am

Quote from: Boyd Crowder on February 25, 2013, 06:55 am

Quote from: mdmafx on February 25, 2013, 06:37 am

Come on,  I find it hard to believe someone would go to the hassle of vacuum sealing drugs and then  wrapping said drugs in his own utility bill without noticing

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if snoopy is etm trying to throw people off. If you are desperate to track him down your best chance is asking Limetless or Symbiosis, they were reg suppliers for him. If Limetless still has an address he would give it up in a heartbeat, for the right price of course. I doubt that someone like etm would be ordering to an address that could be traced back to him though. If you got scammed the money is gone. Don't FE and you will never have the problem. Very few items on SR that can't be sourced from a vendor who allows you to stay in escrow.

Lets see if snoopy runs a power ball lotto with the 300btc when ETM coughs up the coins.

Seriously I can't believe anyone is biting on this, an electricity bill, really?

ETM's expressed orders where post stamped in NSW anyway, yawn.

*gets some popcorn just in case*

yes and byron bay/northern nsw is on the border anyway of nsw/qld so that would make sens?

how do you know there isnt more than 1 of them???

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

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Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 25, 2013, 07:32 am

Quote from: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 07:27 am

Quote from: samesamebutdifferent on February 25, 2013, 07:19 am

Quote from: Boyd Crowder on February 25, 2013, 06:55 am

Quote from: mdmafx on February 25, 2013, 06:37 am

Come on,  I find it hard to believe someone would go to the hassle of vacuum sealing drugs and then  wrapping said drugs in his own utility bill without noticing

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if snoopy is etm trying to throw people off. If you are desperate to track him down your best chance is asking Limetless or Symbiosis, they were reg suppliers for him. If Limetless still has an address he would give it up in a heartbeat, for the right price of course. I doubt that someone like etm would be ordering to an address that could be traced back to him though. If you got scammed the money is gone. Don't FE and you will never have the problem. Very few items on SR that can't be sourced from a vendor who allows you to stay in escrow.

Lets see if snoopy runs a power ball lotto with the 300btc when ETM coughs up the coins.

Seriously I can't believe anyone is biting on this, an electricity bill, really?

ETM's expressed orders where post stamped in NSW anyway, yawn.

*gets some popcorn just in case*

yes and byron bay/northern nsw is on the border anyway of nsw/qld so that would make sens?

how do you know there isnt more than 1 of them???

I don't but I know a troll when I see one  ;)

Keep going though it's quite entertaining, I need a laugh after the weekend I just had modding this mess

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Pusci on February 25, 2013, 07:46 am

Give me the addy , ill check it out :)

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 25, 2013, 09:48 am

Spot on. No one to blame but yourselves for enabling this cunt to sell you shit drugs at a premium price. The peeps who kept calling this prick were shot down by his fanbois.

The tragedy here is, that a vendor who was perceived to being SR top 5 basically scammed. Today SR finally lost it's innocence.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 09:49 am

well twice i had packages checked on their delivery status and they were shipped from nelson bay

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 10:18 am

Quote from: jidf on February 25, 2013, 09:38 am

Quote from: Pusci on February 25, 2013, 07:46 am

Give me the addy , ill check it out :)

It's not him, you fucking idiot.

I warned you guys months back that matrix is a money hungry jew. None of you matrix buyers have my symphony, or my sympathy. JMNONIC - or whatever alias you give yourself - please fuck yourself, brutally. You were one of the worst matrix groupie homos of all. All of you had the chance to order from another vendor YOU DIDN'T LISTEN !!!

Why the fuck did you guys keep choosing etm, time and time again??
IT'S HAPPENING !!!!

I would like somebody to catch matrix though. Thank fuck that annoying cunt is gone.

Arrrgh you spelt my alias name wrong...-1. :(

Now why would i be a matrix groupie? One of the worst ever? Only order i've been ripped off on and FE'd on, was from Ivory.

I ordered once off matrix 2 weeks before xmas...so exactly what the fuck are you talking about? You have 2 lousy posts to your name, what your saying makes no sense.

And fuck you for spelling my alias wrong, thats just fucked up right there...like WTF? You could have said anything, but the mispelling is just not fucking on...

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nanpa2001 on February 25, 2013, 10:22 am

One of the reasons it is so hard to understand why he would pull this scam is because he was making so much money anyway. His prices were high, his sales volume was high, too. Despite the fact that his faux trademark was annoying, it looks like a lot of people were impressed with it if his sales are any indication.

This scam is a small amount of the total amount of money he would have made on SR. No doubt he didn't need to do this for financial reasons. He probably just did it for the sheer joy of ripping people off.

I feel sorry for any new Australian vendor starting in the next few weeks. People are going to be suspicious as hell that it could be ETM coming back again, and pulling continuous scams like that guy in Canada.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 10:24 am

it might be an associate.. the forum matrix may have been knocked off and be buried in a hole in a forest.. u never know

cant see why he decided to pull off the scam unless he got scammed bigtime by one of his suppliers and was like 'fuck this' and decided to bailout

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: asphyx on February 25, 2013, 10:28 am

I'm growing skeptical of Snoopysnoop. The whole situation of having his address accidentally mailed seems too good to be true (just like ETM's sales).

And yeah it is hard to feel sorry for (most of) the people who got scammed... loyal customers of his who have spent weeks/months/years happily bending over and being sodomised by his ridiculous prices, as if there were no other domestic alternatives. Does "top 1% of SR" really mean that much to people that they willingly pay 50% extra for the same product and service?

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Pusci on February 25, 2013, 10:28 am

Obviously jidf , fucking idiot....

There where  a couple groupies but wasn't THAT many , main reason he was always up the top and selling overpriced shit was because he seemed the most trustworthy for noobs to use...

Thats why i used him 6+ months ago or whatever it was , because i seen the cunt all over the forums , and his reputation/feedback was so good and trustworthy that he would be the best bet to do my first order with.
... after my first order i never had any need to use him again...

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 10:29 am

my secret nickname for EnterTheMatrix was "EnterTheMuslim".

thats what i used to call him anyway just for shits and giggles although i never expressed it online

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 10:36 am

Wished i had a vendor account called EnterTheMuslim and sell fireworks/pyrotechnics and or explosives

im glad muslims are anti drug ive never met any here

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: OzFreelancer on February 25, 2013, 10:38 am

Quote from: nanpa2001 on February 25, 2013, 10:22 am

One of the reasons it is so hard to understand why he would pull this scam is because he was making so much money anyway. His prices were high, his sales volume was high, too. Despite the fact that his faux trademark was annoying, it looks like a lot of people were impressed with it if his sales are any indication.

This scam is a small amount of the total amount of money he would have made on SR. No doubt he didn't need to do this for financial reasons. He probably just did it for the sheer joy of ripping people off.

I feel sorry for any new Australian vendor starting in the next few weeks. People are going to be suspicious as hell that it could be ETM coming back again, and pulling continuous scams like that guy in Canada.

Given the timing, my bet is that ETM saw the sentence handed down to Shadh1 - a far smaller and less professional operation - and decided to get out before getting caught.  That's a long time in jail to be facing.

And then for some reason they decided to pull a Tony76 exit.  They would have been better off just quietly fading away and it would have taken ages before anyone realised they were actually gone, meaning nobody would be out for blood.

Maybe they were surprised that it worked - ETM always berated sellers who required FE and stated they would NEVER request it.  Even they must have been shocked at how many people did.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: AceVentura220687 on February 25, 2013, 10:42 am

Fuck you ETM!!
Scamming Cunt!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 10:57 am

i knew id get neg repped for making fun of muslims  cos some kaffir are such fucken crybaby protectors of muslims

i have a constitutional right to called ETM "EnterTheMuslim" if i like

its in the second amendment

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 10:59 am

he might have been using customers addresses as return addresses for other orders

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Bundy on February 25, 2013, 11:49 am

Snoopy, obviously not going to give any money, because that would simply confirm the information and then You could publish it anyway.
I suggest that you and anyone else who has information, to post it ... so we can investigate and get something else. Then if the information is good, we could make voluntary donations and pay someone to torture and upload the photos ... or maybe you just burn your house

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Snoopysnoop on February 25, 2013, 01:07 pm

Quote from: GUS on February 25, 2013, 06:31 am

ETM send the money to the provided wallet.

snoopysnoops gonna do it.. send it!  8)

yes the cunt has 42 hours until d-day

snoops

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Cloud Surfer on February 25, 2013, 01:22 pm

We just heard about this.
We also heard this vendor was claiming to re-sell our MDMA.
If there's one thing we hate, then it's people who rip off especially using our name on their profile without asking
(we were not aware of that)

Can someone send us a list of return addresses he used so we can possibly lend a hand here.
Let someone collect them and send me a list, don't send me tons of messages.

CloudSurfer

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nanpa2001 on February 25, 2013, 02:03 pm

Quote from: Cloud Surfer on February 25, 2013, 01:22 pm

We just heard about this.
We also heard this vendor was claiming to re-sell our MDMA.
If there's one thing we hate, then it's people who rip off especially using our name on their profile without asking
(we were not aware of that)

Can someone send us a list of return addresses he used so we can possibly lend a hand here.
Let someone collect them and send me a list, don't send me tons of messages.

CloudSurfer

The return addresses will be any address except his own if he has any brains at all. Here in Australia it doesn't really matter what the return address is.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Cloud Surfer on February 25, 2013, 04:06 pm

Quote from: nanpa2001 on February 25, 2013, 02:03 pm

Quote from: Cloud Surfer on February 25, 2013, 01:22 pm

We just heard about this.
We also heard this vendor was claiming to re-sell our MDMA.
If there's one thing we hate, then it's people who rip off especially using our name on their profile without asking
(we were not aware of that)

Can someone send us a list of return addresses he used so we can possibly lend a hand here.
Let someone collect them and send me a list, don't send me tons of messages.

CloudSurfer

The return addresses will be any address except his own if he has any brains at all. Here in Australia it doesn't really matter what the return address is.

I think I have a clue but can't help you all without your help...

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: HEATFan on February 25, 2013, 05:13 pm

Quote from: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 10:57 am

i knew id get neg repped for making fun of muslims  cos some kaffir are such fucken crybaby protectors of muslims

i have a constitutional right to called ETM "EnterTheMuslim" if i like

its in the second amendment

Guess what else is in the constitution? My right to think you're a bigoted idiot. Keep your racist and non-useful comments out of here. I actually hope you did get scammed by ETM cuz you are no better than him. Cheers.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: dex on February 25, 2013, 05:30 pm

This is reminding me of when "Vladamir"s assassin or whatever came on the forums trying to find someone to buy Vlad's "address" after Vlad split with people's cash
Ended up being a lie.. was entertaining while it lasted though

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chil on February 25, 2013, 08:30 pm

Snoopy could at least give us some kind of evidence by posting a screenshot of ETM's quoted message....

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: CDXXXXDC on February 25, 2013, 08:42 pm

Scamming people is a shitty thing to do

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 10:05 pm

Snoopysnoop = ETM

cos he is trying to make ppl think his name is 'Jason' with some utility bill theory. I think his name was Batholomew or something posh and he ate from expensive silverware. he owned vacumn sealing equipment as well as that costs a hundred bucks in some places

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Fallkniven on February 25, 2013, 11:26 pm

Quote from: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 10:05 pm

Snoopysnoop = ETM

and that assumption made from what evidence?

Quote from: sweetbro on February 25, 2013, 10:05 pm

he owned vacumn sealing equipment as well as that costs a hundred bucks in some places

you can get a vacuum sealer off ebay for $30

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 26, 2013, 04:05 am

Bloody hell, it's made the news.

beware clearnet site.
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/underweb-anger-as-silk-road-seller-does-a-runner-20130226-2f36q.html

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 26, 2013, 04:25 am

I really want this cunt to be caught, not becasue he scammed people, thats been happening since day dot, but becasue he is a slimy cunt and for the prices he was charging. Also for how he thinks he is being clever and for the asci middle finger message in 555555.

Who ever catches him should make a video of the event, have him humiliated, bashed to an inch of his life and then dumped outside the copshop with "This is ETM from SilkRoad" written in texta on his forehead.

Wouldnt mind seeing him covered in deadly local insects as well.

Just fuck this cunt up.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: tea_drinker on February 26, 2013, 05:10 am

Guys, nobody would have lost shit if they stuck to the golden rule (no FE).

Don't worry about ETM's fate, stolen funds have a way of leaving the way they came.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: iliketurtles on February 26, 2013, 07:49 am

I know someone whos first order came from ETM about 2 weeks ago (if that).

There was no return address on the envelope, however I can pretty safely say he was definitely in the greater Brisbane area due to the fact that the order arrived the same day as the order was placed/FE'ed (FE'd that morning at around 6AM, order received some time that afternoon).

I also remember something on his listings about using postcode 4000 (Brisbane) to find out how long a package would take to get to your location (I think this was for international orders?).

Now, I don't believe this electricity bill story (not until we get a photo with the details blurred/cut out), however Everton Park is in Brisbane (well, close enough).

Snoop, if you want to send me the address (minus the house number if you like), I would be happy to arrange a drive by (as in just to look, not to shoot the house up lol)

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: quiensabe on February 26, 2013, 09:35 am

Such a shame. Looks like I'm one of the unlucky suckers that got stung by ETM. Ordered Friday and just logged on today to find he'd disappeared.

Having only had a hand full of SR purchases that have all gone super smooth, then reading ETM feedback I had no hesitation in ordering. The whole FE thing didn't bother me with his rep... but I guess it goes to show, escrow is there for a reason.

I'm bummed, but I've had worse scams in street deals and I'd rather receive no product at all than dodgy product.

Let's hope it's not a trend that starts with otherwise reputable vendors.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: beezareawesome on February 26, 2013, 09:38 am

ETM is a fucking cunt. I feared a repeat of tony76 as soon as he made his LSD outrageously cheap. $300 for 25 very potent tabs!?? Crazy! I've only ordered from ETM once, sent from Newcastle, NSW, 2300.

Has anybody else noticed the absence of MDMA listings? The domestic Ecstasy listings page is a ghost town. :( There isn't a single listing for 1g of MDMA, only 1 listing for .5g, and the rest are pills.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: iliketurtles on February 26, 2013, 09:53 am

stop scaring me beez, I have high (*cough*) hopes that there will be MDMA listed again in no time!

... please :(

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: beezareawesome on February 26, 2013, 10:13 am

Quote from: iliketurtles on February 26, 2013, 09:53 am

stop scaring me beez, I have high (*cough*) hopes that there will be MDMA listed again in no time!

... please :(

I really hope so! I need to buy some for Futures. Things were just starting to look up too, last week you could get a gram of MDMA for $200 from a variety of sellers.

I found this in my Skype history, called it! http://anonym.to/?http://i.imgur.com/Ifr1Uv2.png

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: 12345 on February 26, 2013, 10:32 am

oO

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Fallkniven on February 26, 2013, 10:56 am

Quote from: quiensabe on February 26, 2013, 09:35 am

Such a shame. Looks like I'm one of the unlucky suckers that got stung by ETM. Ordered Friday and just logged on today to find he'd disappeared.

Having only had a hand full of SR purchases that have all gone super smooth, then reading ETM feedback I had no hesitation in ordering. The whole FE thing didn't bother me with his rep... but I guess it goes to show, escrow is there for a reason.

I'm bummed, but I've had worse scams in street deals and I'd rather receive no product at all than dodgy product.

Let's hope it's not a trend that starts with otherwise reputable vendors.

+1 for showing adversity in the face of defeat...

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: flakesmith on February 26, 2013, 04:15 pm

His runner would've had little impact if people just did not FE. I've seen so many vendor pages where people are told to FE, or even worse, volunteer to FE, just because the vendor is a 'trusted' one. While what happened here is an extreme (though a recurring one), there's still no reason to ever not stay in escrow.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: flaxceed on February 26, 2013, 04:48 pm

I ship to Australia nearly every weekday and I require FE.  The one big difference is I don't walk away with the money.  Too bad this happened.  I will never understand how people trade out a reputation for a few dollars.  It is just amazingly short-sighted.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: HEATFan on February 26, 2013, 05:06 pm

Quote from: flaxceed on February 26, 2013, 04:48 pm

I ship to Australia nearly every weekday and I require FE.  The one big difference is I don't walk away with the money.  Too bad this happened.  I will never understand how people trade out a reputation for a few dollars.  It is just amazingly short-sighted.

It wasn't a few dollars. It could be a potentially huge amount which could end up being even more if bitcoin continues to appreciate over the long run. No one said he is cashing out right now. And besides, 800+ free BTC certainly sounds attractive to me.

Also, no one is to say he doesn't already have another account on SR. In fact, no one is to say that he isn't already one of the top vendors. Simply put, what he did was actually very smart. Genius in fact. Getting so many people to FE even when they knew they shouldn't? They took a risk and knew well the risk they took and unfortunately it didn't turn out well for them.

Lastly, why do you make people FE? I never buy from vendors who REQUIRE FE. There are some who offering things like free shipping in exchange for FE, which is different. But to require FE just to purchase is really the equivalent of circumventing the community of the silk road. A better policy would be to not sell to people without some transaction history.

My 2 bitcents.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Fallkniven on February 26, 2013, 08:05 pm

Quote from: flaxceed on February 26, 2013, 04:48 pm

...The one big difference is I don't walk away with the money...

Not yet anyway.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 26, 2013, 08:11 pm

Quote from: flaxceed on February 26, 2013, 04:48 pm

I ship to Australia nearly every weekday and I require FE.  The one big difference is I don't walk away with the money.  Too bad this happened.  I will never understand how people trade out a reputation for a few dollars.  It is just amazingly short-sighted.

I think you are going to find the number of aussies willing to FE drop significantly this week mate, may be time to rethink that policy and use the escrow system.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: iliketurtles on February 26, 2013, 09:04 pm

^ this guy knows what's up.

I don't think I'll ever FE again unless I've been communicating for a long time with the vendor, and it's for a good reason. I'll never FE straight up on request or even "because they're a trusted vendor".

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 26, 2013, 09:09 pm

FE is the same as going up to a street dealer asking him if he can get on and then agreeing for him to go across the road in the housing blocks with your money to get gear for him to never come back.

Don't do it and there should be some kind of warning/disclaimer on SR front page.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Fallkniven on February 26, 2013, 09:26 pm

^ this happened to me when i was like 15, in newcastle of all places, it was probably ETM in his first days of dealing, lol

"yeh man i got good shit, gotta pay first tho"
"umm, ok"
"YOINK! BYYEE!!!"

i waited there like a fuckwit for an hour, some chick who saw what happened came back and told me i got ripped off. then she invited me back to her place to smoke buds lol

i never saw that chick again, if your out there watching, thanks for the smoke!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on February 26, 2013, 09:33 pm

Quote from: chainz on February 26, 2013, 09:09 pm

FE is the same as going up to a street dealer asking him if he can get on and then agreeing for him to go across the road in the housing blocks with your money to get gear for him to never come back.

Don't do it and there should be some kind of warning/disclaimer on SR front page.

The SR buyers guide clearly warns people of the risks of FE, that is why most people are always warning others not to do it.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: chainz on February 26, 2013, 10:03 pm

Quote from: Fallkniven on February 26, 2013, 09:26 pm

^ this happened to me when i was like 15, in newcastle of all places, it was probably ETM in his first days of dealing, lol

"yeh man i got good shit, gotta pay first tho"
"umm, ok"
"YOINK! BYYEE!!!"

i waited there like a fuckwit for an hour, some chick who saw what happened came back and told me i got ripped off. then she invited me back to her place to smoke buds lol

i never saw that chick again, if your out there watching, thanks for the smoke!

haha its happened to me as well. In St Kilda when i was 16..i went to buy some buds and was told that only he could go see the dude..i waited and waited and got the same treatment..this dirty fucked up junkie laughed at me and told me that i just gave some other junkie a few free hits.

I am sure most have learnt the hard way with street dealers.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: flaxceed on February 27, 2013, 06:20 am

I don't understand dealers who use escrow.  It it the same as telling your customer "ok dude, go home and smoke this and pay me later."  Hahhahahaa.  Funny how so many escrowed orders end up 50% refunds.  Since I switched to FE only I have cut my prices like crazy across the board since I no longer have to finance all of those 50% pay cuts.  FE sucks for sellers.  Too many liars and cheats ordering.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: GUS on February 27, 2013, 06:27 am

^^

[sarcasm] lucky there is no lying cheating vendors  [/sarcasm]

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: rocketgauze on February 27, 2013, 07:11 am

Quote from: flaxceed on February 26, 2013, 04:48 pm

I ship to Australia nearly every weekday and I require FE.  The one big difference is I don't walk away with the money.  Too bad this happened.  I will never understand how people trade out a reputation for a few dollars.  It is just amazingly short-sighted.

Matrix would have said the exact same thing.

I understand, as an overseas vendor, that you require FE for Australians to purchase from you and people can choose to either take that chance or not but dont patronize everyone pretending you are any different from every other vendor.

The escrow system is fair, the only reason vendors dont want their money in escrow is because that eliminates the option for them to scam you. Dont give flaxceed and other vendors like him the chance and you wont have any problems. Additionally, be especially weary of any vendor that tells you to trust them. They are anonymous people on the internet and there is no real penalty stopping them from taking your FEd money and running.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: antw082 on February 27, 2013, 07:23 am

^^^^^ Word.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: HEATFan on February 27, 2013, 07:59 am

Quote from: rocketgauze on February 27, 2013, 07:11 am

Quote from: flaxceed on February 26, 2013, 04:48 pm

I ship to Australia nearly every weekday and I require FE.  The one big difference is I don't walk away with the money.  Too bad this happened.  I will never understand how people trade out a reputation for a few dollars.  It is just amazingly short-sighted.

Matrix would have said the exact same thing.

I understand, as an overseas vendor, that you require FE for Australians to purchase from you and people can choose to either take that chance or not but dont patronize everyone pretending you are any different from every other vendor.

The escrow system is fair, the only reason vendors dont want their money in escrow is because that eliminates the option for them to scam you. Dont give flaxceed and other vendors like him the chance and you wont have any problems. Additionally, be especially weary of any vendor that tells you to trust them. They are anonymous people on the internet and there is no real penalty stopping them from taking your FEd money and running.

Well said, +1.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: rocketgauze on February 27, 2013, 08:46 am

Quote from: Fallkniven on February 27, 2013, 08:27 am

Quote from: rocketgauze on February 27, 2013, 07:11 am

...the only reason vendors dont want their money in escrow is because that eliminates the option for them to scam you...

-Removed

This is not really an issue because it could be detected very easily if it was done on any kind of scale or with any type of quickness becasue the money would be tied up in escrow and the admin would see that multiple buyers (most likely with good prior stats) were all saying the same thing.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: rocketgauze on February 27, 2013, 10:42 am

Quote from: Fallkniven on February 27, 2013, 08:58 am

it could very well be a selective scam on any order, only an idiot would repeatedly do it

Escrow is a fair process which can deal with selective scamming by both the buyer and vendor. I havent really seen or heard of any vendors selective scamming orders that are in escrow. It is almost always done when people FE.

As for my original post, I guess I should clarify that using escrow eliminates the option for the vendor to easily scam the buyer, which is enough in my opinion.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Colcannon on February 28, 2013, 03:21 am

Quote from: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 10:18 am

Quote from: jidf on February 25, 2013, 09:38 am

Quote from: Pusci on February 25, 2013, 07:46 am

Give me the addy , ill check it out :)

It's not him, you fucking idiot.

I warned you guys months back that matrix is a money hungry jew. None of you matrix buyers have my symphony, or my sympathy. JMNONIC - or whatever alias you give yourself - please fuck yourself, brutally. You were one of the worst matrix groupie homos of all. All of you had the chance to order from another vendor YOU DIDN'T LISTEN !!!

Why the fuck did you guys keep choosing etm, time and time again??
IT'S HAPPENING !!!!

I would like somebody to catch matrix though. Thank fuck that annoying cunt is gone.

Arrrgh you spelt my alias name wrong...-1. :(

Now why would i be a matrix groupie? One of the worst ever? Only order i've been ripped off on and FE'd on, was from Ivory.

I ordered once off matrix 2 weeks before xmas...so exactly what the fuck are you talking about? You have 2 lousy posts to your name, what your saying makes no sense.

And fuck you for spelling my alias wrong, thats just fucked up right there...like WTF? You could have said anything, but the mispelling is just not fucking on...

He was right about you though wasnt he jnemonic? You were ETM's number one fanboy, lapdog, ball washer weren't you. Along with: samesamebutdifferent and Wadozo and theres probably others too.

As Ive said elsewhere you are a prime suspect for being a ETM puppet / Shill.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Colcannon on February 28, 2013, 03:43 am

Quote from: Boyd Crowder on February 25, 2013, 06:55 am

Quote from: mdmafx on February 25, 2013, 06:37 am

Come on,  I find it hard to believe someone would go to the hassle of vacuum sealing drugs and then  wrapping said drugs in his own utility bill without noticing

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if snoopy is etm trying to throw people off. If you are desperate to track him down your best chance is asking Limetless or Symbiosis, they were reg suppliers for him. If Limetless still has an address he would give it up in a heartbeat, for the right price of course. I doubt that someone like etm would be ordering to an address that could be traced back to him though. If you got scammed the money is gone. Don't FE and you will never have the problem. Very few items on SR that can't be sourced from a vendor who allows you to stay in escrow.

Do you know any other vendors who supplied him?

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Tessellated on March 02, 2013, 12:16 am

Snitching ain't cool, even in this case. If anyone does figure out who he is then it is better to handle it personally.

Remember if he gets busted he might have a buyer list of hundreds of addresses. Cops are going to go after everyone.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: mrxempire on March 02, 2013, 02:22 am

I don't get how matrix was so high on the seller list anyway. I bought a 5 strip of his "250" microgram LSD a few months ago and it was shit. You had to pretty much eat the entire 5 strip to feel anything. And 200 for a gram of MDMA?!?! You can get that shit for like 70 a gram from a lot of other vendors. I wrote matrix off as a scammer as soon as I made my first purchase from him. You could find 4 times as potent LSD for cheaper. I don't see how anybody could justify buying from him more than once.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nanpa2001 on March 02, 2013, 02:45 am

Quote from: mrxempire on March 02, 2013, 02:22 am

I don't get how matrix was so high on the seller list anyway. I bought a 5 strip of his "250" microgram LSD a few months ago and it was shit. You had to pretty much eat the entire 5 strip to feel anything. And 200 for a gram of MDMA?!?! You can get that shit for like 70 a gram from a lot of other vendors. I wrote matrix off as a scammer as soon as I made my first purchase from him. You could find 4 times as potent LSD for cheaper. I don't see how anybody could justify buying from him more than once.

$200 a gram for MDMA is actually not too bad for Australia, and ETM never actually sold any for $200 a gram. He was only 'selling' for $200 a gram in his scam phase - he never actually sent any of those orders out. Generally he was selling a gram of MDMA from around $250 to $270 a gram.

Which domestic seller sells MDMA for $70 a gram? I would like to know.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: mrxempire on March 02, 2013, 02:53 am

oops i didnt know that his MDMA listing was meant for australians only. I'm real sorry you guys have to pay that much for MDMA. Almost makes me glad to be living in the united states...almost. At least you guys can go out and fight kangaroos and shit when you get mad about your silk road prices. His LSD was da poopoo though for real

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: flaxceed on March 03, 2013, 01:14 pm

Quote from: rocketgauze on February 27, 2013, 07:11 am

Quote from: flaxceed on February 26, 2013, 04:48 pm

I ship to Australia nearly every weekday and I require FE.  The one big difference is I don't walk away with the money.  Too bad this happened.  I will never understand how people trade out a reputation for a few dollars.  It is just amazingly short-sighted.

Matrix would have said the exact same thing.

I understand, as an overseas vendor, that you require FE for Australians to purchase from you and people can choose to either take that chance or not but dont patronize everyone pretending you are any different from every other vendor.

The escrow system is fair, the only reason vendors dont want their money in escrow is because that eliminates the option for them to scam you. Dont give flaxceed and other vendors like him the chance and you wont have any problems. Additionally, be especially weary of any vendor that tells you to trust them. They are anonymous people on the internet and there is no real penalty stopping them from taking your FEd money and running.

Yeah, I guess all I can say is that I am different so far.  I don't have any argument for that.  I would like to think that I have built trust with some of my core customers that believe in me, but most people haven't dealt with me for long enough.  Some people who ordered from me when I first starting selling testosterone and xanax over on the bitcoin forum have been through 10+ orders with me now and they know who and what I am.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Pusci on March 04, 2013, 04:55 am

Can say i have had 4 envelopes from flax.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: kalymist on March 04, 2013, 10:25 am

He is the guy in australia :)

No doubt about it.

One of most serious on SR

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: flaxceed on March 04, 2013, 01:21 pm

<blush>

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: nusakan on March 05, 2013, 10:04 am

I can't say I have much of an opinion either way tbh...

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: sundhara on March 13, 2013, 12:24 pm

damn ETM's LSD was very nice albiet expensive but this was last year and to return to SR and find that he has been scamming people is just sad :(

Guys, please remember that FE is never a good idea. You are often better off trying to find another vendor rather than FE. though if its your first purchase you've gotta risk your first few $$$

edit: fuck you catchapa

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: novocaine on March 14, 2013, 09:16 am

first of all....
fuck and cunt and
i sort of cant believe it
still reading through all this shit but
ETM is obviously smart enough(he tricked you cunts) to NOT keep records.
I mean how fucking dumb would that be when you think about.
***reads on***

Quote from: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 02:14 am

Quote from: jnemonic on February 25, 2013, 01:59 am

Quote from: shiznit on February 25, 2013, 01:48 am

vb5piz3r fair play mate. i respect that and generally speaking i agree snitchin is a dog act.

while its fun bashing, kneecapping & robbing. i personally feel in this case, nothing would be more fun than throwing matrix into the system just for the lulz and media hype.
however, im a geek, not a gangster, so i don't live by the criminal code.

How do we know if etm  didnt keep records of all customers? If they go down, i bet they'll take some people down with them...

Its a very paranoid statement i know, but yeah what if.... :-\

yes, thats a very good point. and i could see that cunt keeping addresses just to cope out a deal with LE to lesser charges. at the end of the day, this is SR, this is anonymous drugs in the post, breaking state/commonwealth law. if you give vendors your REAL address, or one that leads back to you, then you are asking for trouble and clearly have not thought things through.
you cannot trust ANYONE. no matter how long they been around. whats to stop a vendor blackmailing you? infact im surprised matrix didnt start doing that as well!

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: novocaine on March 14, 2013, 10:43 am

Well I read all this shit... 98% was blah blah whinge whinge whinge.. i told you so.... dont FE... bit of trolling, (nice one snoopy)
bit of racism (fuck I hate you sweetbro. Everything you have ever said on SR has been garbage).

You fuckers got scammed by the best LMAO ( not laughing at those i personally know that got hit too).
Get over it you fucking school girls.
The reason I am especially angry tonight is I cant fucking believe that most of you would dog ETM because he scammed you out of a few coins....
I mean if you had his deets you would post them up here?? (not you snoopy... we know you have fuck all)
Its no fucking criminal code BS its straight up warfare and we are in the thick of it...You shoot him before you turn him over to the enemy

I think scamming is low but fuck me...postin up deets?? dogging doxing what ever......
I will always FE if a vendor ask me to. So to all those cunts saying dont finalize early I say FUCK YOU it is a risk I am willing to take. So go FUCK yourself.
For every scamming vendor there is 50 of you mother fucking buyers scamming.
I dont blame him for pullin the pin the way he did. Maybe he had a gutfull of whinging cunts on SR like I have

Hey ETM...I hope you break a leg cunt ;)

Fuck I hate you sweetbro... oh I said that already...

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: Meatgrinder on March 14, 2013, 11:00 am

Quote from: novocaine on March 14, 2013, 10:43 am

Well I read all this shit... 98% was blah blah whinge whinge whinge.. i told you so.... dont FE... bit of trolling, (nice one snoopy)
bit of racism (fuck I hate you sweetbro. Everything you have ever said on SR has been garbage).

You fuckers got scammed by the best LMAO ( not laughing at those i personally know that got hit too).
Get over it you fucking school girls.
The reason I am especially angry tonight is I cant fucking believe that most of you would dog ETM because he scammed you out of a few coins....
I mean if you had his deets you would post them up here?? (not you snoopy... we know you have fuck all)
Its no fucking criminal code BS its straight up warfare and we are in the thick of it...You shoot him before you turn him over to the enemy

I think scamming is low but fuck me...postin up deets?? dogging doxing what ever......
I will always FE if a vendor ask me to. So to all those cunts saying dont finalize early I say FUCK YOU it is a risk I am willing to take. So go FUCK yourself.
For every scamming vendor there is 50 of you mother fucking buyers scamming.
I dont blame him for pullin the pin the way he did. Maybe he had a gutfull of whinging cunts on SR like I have

Hey ETM...I hope you break a leg cunt ;)

Fuck I hate you sweetbro... oh I said that already...

Sounds like someone needs a hug?

or missed yoga class?

or needs a bowl of cheerios

or needs a cup of cement

or SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Can someone lock this poor excuse of a thread.

Title: Re: EnterTheMatrix

Post by: samesamebutdifferent on March 14, 2013, 11:03 am

Well on that unceremonious note I have to agree that this thread stinking up the customer support board something awful.

Novocaine, did you really miss yoga again? tsk tsk  ;)

Thread locked - if you want to continue to moan about ETM there is another thread you can post in, that one is stinky too.

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