Subject: Print Page - AAkoven--US Buyers Beware
From: <Saved by Mozilla 5.0 (X11)>
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 00:26:44 -0400

l����������

<form id=vvPdBrbUA><form id=vvPdBrbUA></form></form><em id=vvPdBrbUA><form id=vvPdBrbUA></form></em>

<form id=vvPdBrbUA><nobr id=vvPdBrbUA></nobr></form><address id=vvPdBrbUA><nobr id=vvPdBrbUA><nobr id=vvPdBrbUA></nobr></nobr></address>

Silk Road forums

Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: element12 on April 27, 2012, 02:45 am

Title: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: element12 on April 27, 2012, 02:45 am

Hey, I just wanted to share my recent experience with AAkoven and prevent the same from happening to others.

I knew AAkoven was a top vendor (98 rating) so I figured ordering speed from him would be pretty safe, but I ordered almost 2 months ago and have nothing to show for it.  Perhaps the problem does not lie with him, as most people are satisfied with his stuff, but rather with the reshipper.  His impossible-to-understand messages did not help his case, though.
My full conversation transcript will be included in the next post.

First off, I was a little worried when I noticed (after I ordered) that his listing said "i ship not usa," so I messaged him about canceling the order but he said he had already shipped it.

After waiting patiently for 20 days, nothing had arrived so I asked for a reship.  He offered 50%, which is less than most vendors but fair enough.  While waiting for the reship I did a little research and found out that many people had qualms about his packaging:

"i couldn't believe it, that the customs didn't recognize what was inside... you could smell the reek of the phet from one meter distance through the packaging"
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.285

"the package was basically pills wrapped in newspaper and then packaged, no vacuum pack, nothing."
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=19561.0

"I've got a friend who was fucked in USA cause of aakovens packaging... knock and talk and shit for a couple pills...."
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=19561.msg200169#msg200169

22 days after reshipping, I still have nothing.  Obviously I was a little irked.  I've had dozens of packages arrive from Europe (coherence, blaatzor, amsterdope, juergen, etc) on the first time.  No way 2 shipments get intercepted for no reason--I'm guessing it was the packaging issues mentioned.

I brought this up to AA and asked for a refund (not full refund, obviously) but he sent back messages that made no sense and ultimately refused to refund.

So far, from my point of view this was a terrible buyer's experience.  I paid in full, ended up with nothing, and had to deal with nonsensical messages and cryptic customer service.

Just wanted to warn people.  If you're in the UK this most likely does not apply but you will still have to wade through his broken English.

I'll update if either of the packages end up coming through.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: element12 on April 27, 2012, 02:46 am

element12 - 1 month

Quote

Hey aakoven. I was rereading the listing for speed and noticed you said "i ship not usa"
Does this mean you don't ship to the US? Should I cancel my order?

aakoven - 1 month

Quote

its all ready on the mail m8 dont worry

element12 - 1 month

Quote

Okay great, thanks.

aakoven - 1 month

Quote

:+)

element12 - 1 month

Quote

Hey,
My order of 2g speed never got here :( It's been 18 days since ordering so it auto-finalized.
Is there any chance I could get a reship? I'm not trying to scam you, I was even looking forward to reviewing it on the forums, you can check my posts there.

aakoven - 1 month

Quote

Give me your add plz...i send 50 % of the order..

element12 - 23 days

Quote

Sure, 50% is fine. 1g then right?
Sorry it took so long to get back to you, I was indisposed for a week (and unfortunately the speed still isn't here)
Here is the address:[redacted]

aakoven - 22 days

Quote

ok i will send .
\
AA

element12 - 7 days

Quote

Hey,
just wanted to confirm you send the reship as I have still not gotten it
Thanks

aakoven - 6 days

Quote

its send. 100 % sure.

AA

element12 - 2 days

Quote

Hey it's been 20 days and I still have not gotten anything. Could I get a refund?

aakoven - 1 day

Quote

i did all ready re send.

element12 - 21 hours

Quote

I understand but clearly there is something wrong on your end as it's been 21 days since reshipping and it's still not here; I didn't even get a love-letter from customs. So far as a customer I've gotten nothing out of this and unless you have a DCN or something similar I have no reason to believe you shipped it in the first place. Since we both split risk 50/50 could I get a 50% refund? There are many vendors here who claim to refund/reship 100% if their product doesn't get there.

I'm not trying to screw you over... I've ordered from juergen, blaatzor, amsterdope, coherence, etc. all from Europe and their stuff got here just fine the first time. Do you use a reshipper? Perhaps that's where the problem is? Several people on the forum have complained about smell from your packages / poor packaging, maybe that was the problem?
(http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.285, post by imprint)
Also it seems I'm not the first to complain about it not getting here:
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=17170.0

All I'm asking for is a fair 50%. If the reshipment ever gets here I will immediately send you the money back but at the moment I'm out $45 and spent 2 months waiting.

aakoven - 21 hours

Quote

@I have no reason to believe you shipped it in the first place \ up t u...

@I have no reason to believe you shipped it in the first place \ order from them.!

element12 - 16 hours

Quote

What on earth does that mean?

Look, so far I've had an unsatisfactory experience dealing with you.
If this goes unresolved then that bad experience is what is going to be reflected by my forum posts and you can't expect more than a 1/5 rating.

aakoven - 16 hours

Quote

1, i give 50 % refund or i re ship.!
So i did.
I dont know why even the re ship dont arrive.its always my bad never the customer right?
No room buddy steal it or the mail men or..i dont know what.
I have seen it many times.later they mail me O it was , a guy ..who steal it sorry sorry...
It make no sense for me to no send, why to make 10 $?

I ship 250 pills orders np i can be trusted..
I did all what was in my power the re ship does not arrice happen mebe 1 \1000.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: waytoomany on April 27, 2012, 02:34 pm

God damnit, I wish I didn't see this... Its been 17 days and still am waiting for me package. AAkoven also told me that his reshipper had some sort of Hard Drive crash which is why it's taking sooo long.

AAkoven keeps reassuring me though, that my package is going to come... each time saying that it's going to be an extra day. I also agree with you that this experience as a buyer is just terrible.

I've been financing my money the past few weeks assuming that my bulk order would arrive by now, I'm broke as fuck now and dope sick. I had to pawn my $3000 saxophone and various other things to not be sick this past week. I was really counting on aakoven's OC 40's to be here by now.

After reading this thread though, you finalized it for me- the fact that my package isn't going to make it. I really can't go on just waiting for the mail to come only to find nothing. It's such a fucking tease, that it's almost better knowing that my package aint going to be here versus wondering if its coming today.

I honestly would rather have AAkoven tell me that my package isn't going to make it. Rather than saying "oh dude relax, itll be there... 2 or 3 days give it"

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: waytoomany on April 27, 2012, 05:06 pm

hey, so the mail man just dropped off the mail and guess what? I still haven't gotten my package which was guaranteed to be here yesterday or today.

3 days ago he AAkoven said yea 2-3 days should be there.... then 7 days ago he says oh yea 4-6 days should be there...

Then all of a sudden his reshipper has a Hard drive crash breaks his computer...... Okay, so that will add a few days onto the wait time, but why AAkoven would you tell me this after resolution?? I mean, if your reshipper has a computer crash or whatever, don't you think that you should have told me this earlier when you found out?

I'm not insulting or being unnecessary mean, I'm being honest and giving you constructive criticism for your business. And right now, I regret spending the $1000 for 50 OC 40 mg's. I'm actually very disapointed and unsatisfied with the turnout of this transaction so far. I won't be back and wish I didn't deal with him in the first place.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh on aakoven but $1000 is allot for me and I've been -$1000 for 17 days... I owe people money now. WTF am i going to do?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: divinechemicals on April 27, 2012, 06:06 pm

One of the very first things I learned about the Silk Road based on my lurking in the forums for about a month was that you NEVER order from the Netherlands if you are in the U.S. It is not worth the risk whatsoever. The Netherlands is an automatically flagged country and the chance of that package getting to you is significantly diminished. I doubt this is all AAkoven's fault. Maybe he should have used better packaging, but the fact is that the Netherlands are already a poor choice to order from. Unfortunately you had to find this out the hard way. But at least you know for the future.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: jh0000n on April 27, 2012, 06:21 pm

Ya Netherlands,China. Pakistan, India, Mexico, Columbia, mynamar , Nigeria, Libya, and most middle eastern countrys are to be avoided like the plague....pretty much any country thats globally known as drug producing or has issues with the american government. Safe-er countrys would be like --south africa, botswana, Canada, East europe countrys, australia, israel, turkey.....(Ive ordered from most of these safe countrys other than turkey and never had any problems.....pakistan on the other hand seized every time)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: waytoomany on April 27, 2012, 07:01 pm

It's never a good idea to order from NL to US... AAkoven has a shipping option though where he mails it to the UK first and somebody from UK reships it to US. *reshipper*

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: element12 on April 27, 2012, 10:05 pm

You can't really blame his packages not showing up on his country.

He should package it better then if he's sending from the NL.  If his products get caught going through customs that's his fault.  Amsterdope's stuff got here just fine.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: fatalz on April 29, 2012, 03:23 am

Damn, your story is exactly the same as mine.

i made an order for some mdma, 18 days later no package, so aakoven agreed to re ship 50%. It's been about 8 days since the reship, so we'll see if it shows up, though to be honest, I have already given up hope that I'll get either one of those packages, and most likely will never order from him again.

I already put a new order in with Ivory (who I have ordered from numerous times with 100% success and never waited more than 6 days, even with bulk orders). I would of ordered from him to begin with, but he was on vacation lol..

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: element12 on April 29, 2012, 05:20 am

Second order of speed from Amsterdope got here today (5 days).
2/2 shipments of speed received from the Netherlands from Amsterdope successfully.
0/2 shipments of speed received from the Netherlands from AAkoven successfully.

You really cannot blame that on the country then...

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: waytoomany on April 29, 2012, 01:52 pm

I've had to resolve 2 cases of items not reaching my destination and what I did was left it up to the vendor.

I let the vendor decide what feedback they wanted based on this...

1/5 = 60% refund

2/5 = 70% refund

3/5 = 80% refund

4/5 = 90% refund

5/5 = 100% refund

I'm sick and tired of vendors saying it is not their fault for packages not making it.

That is bullshit. It is their fault. Mail just doesn't get lost, well it does... but very very very rarely. When packages don't make it, it's because customs picked it up. Customs pick up packages because they look sketchy and don't look legit and aren't packaged up to standards.

Don't you think the vendor should be responsible for their shipping and packaging? Shouldn't a vendor package their products in a such a way that customs won't be suspicious of it?

If a package is stealth, concealed, and not suspicious then the vendor did good and was responsible for his packaging. But if not, they did a shitty job and should be held responsible for not doing a good job. Thus making it their fault.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: element12 on May 01, 2012, 03:46 am

Well technically according to SR resolution policy a 50% refund is all that is required from the vendor.  But come one, two failed packages and no refund?  For all I know he could have never sent anything and pocketed the change.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: MrSnott on May 02, 2012, 07:45 am

I placed an order today from AA and he told me he would be doing the NL->UK->US thing. I really hope this works out and doesn't turn out like you poor fellas!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Timewilltell on May 02, 2012, 07:51 am

This is very very very suspicious.

Aakoven knows Noriega in real life. Noriega's orders haven't been turning up to the USA (some seizures is understandable but basically 100% of them) - and now Noriega has fully fucked off.

It is possible that Aakoven is selective scamming. Not shipping the item, and then giving you a 50 percent refund saying that it got seized. He keeps 50% of the cash without having to sell anything.

There is also the possibility that Aakoven IS Noriega..

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: AAkoven on May 02, 2012, 08:10 am

Quote from: Timewilltell on May 02, 2012, 07:51 am

This is very very very suspicious.

Aakoven knows Noriega in real life. Noriega's orders haven't been turning up to the USA (some seizures is understandable but basically 100% of them) - and now Noriega has fully fucked off.

It is possible that Aakoven is selective scamming. Not shipping the item, and then giving you a 50 percent refund saying that it got seized. He keeps 50% of the cash without having to sell anything.

There is also the possibility that Aakoven IS Noriega..

I know them but I dont see them a lot.Fact.
I know there where some problem.
@It is possible that Aakoven is selective scamming. \ you take this back you FUCKING ASSHOLE.!! WHO THE FUCK ARE U TO TELL SOME THING HERE. FUCK YOU .!!! >:(
@There is also the possibility that Aakoven IS Noriega.. \ HERE U GO MORE BS.  ONE MORE FUCK YOU  ASSHOLE.

U DONT KNOW SHIT ...BUT TELL HERE LIKE U DO ,   YOU CANT EVEN PISS STAID I BET I KID OFF 16 YEARS..MAKE ME SICK THOSE PEOPLE.

SR GO TO BIG EN THEN THERE COMING ASSHOLE LIKE THIS GAY BOY.

AAKOVEN  8)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: MrSnott on May 02, 2012, 08:26 am

Wow what a reply AAkoven! I don't think there is anything you can do when you buy direct from NL. The packages are marked far too often. I will give my review when my product comes and about the time it takes to get here.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: mungingout on May 02, 2012, 08:35 am

Quote from: AAkoven on May 02, 2012, 08:10 am

@It is possible that Aakoven is selective scamming. \ you take this back you FUCKING ASSHOLE.!! WHO THE FUCK ARE U TO TELL SOME THING HERE. FUCK YOU .!!! >:(
@There is also the possibility that Aakoven IS Noriega.. \ HERE U GO MORE BS.  ONE MORE FUCK YOU  ASSHOLE.

So much love for AAkoven, his mannerism makes me laugh.  ;D

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: MrSnott on May 02, 2012, 08:59 am

Can anyone here from the US confirm shipping times to the US in larger amounts since the NL-UK-US thing?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: dopeyopy on May 03, 2012, 01:58 am

I'm in Australia and have ordered from AA without any problems at all. I know it's not the US, but it's a very long way to send something. I got my goods in 12 days (including weekends) and had no problems with communication or with the product.  You guys are too quick to bad mouth a vendor.

Once the package leaves AA's hands he has no control over it. Ask for a tracking number if you want to know where your package is at all times. If you are afraid of losing a package then ask vendor to ship in 3-4 separate packages over the course of a few days and pay a little extra shipping. Order from more than one vendor. Basically, don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Don't order from NL if there have been multiple issues with receiving packages. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me...

Also, i think that 50% back is pretty fair, you take 50% of the risk. It would have been smarter to get a 50% refund and buy from another seller if you were unhappy with AA's packaging, his english and anything else.

Drugs are still illegal. That means that no matter where you source them from, there is a risk involved.

I'm a 10+ year IV H user, i know that sometimes the drugs can try and own you. You have to be patient AND smart when using.  Don't spend more than you can afford to potentially lose. If you are buying for other people, make sure they understand the risk of mail order drugs. If they don't, point them in the SR direction and let them shop for themselves.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: element12 on May 03, 2012, 03:29 am

Quote from: MrSnott on May 02, 2012, 08:26 am

Wow what a reply AAkoven! I don't think there is anything you can do when you buy direct from NL. The packages are marked far too often. I will give my review when my product comes and about the time it takes to get here.

There absolutely is something you can do.  When you receive 2 packages from one vendor from NL successfully and 2 from another vendor get caught clearly there is something wrong on the vendors end.  It is not that hard to get stuff past customs. I believe SKYY has a 99%+ success rate shipping from NL.

Look at all the people in this thread in similar situations.  AA told me this never happens but if you scroll through his feedback there are many people who received nothing.

Quote from: dopeyopy on May 03, 2012, 01:58 am

Don't spend more than you can afford to potentially lose. If you are buying for other people, make sure they understand the risk of mail order drugs. If they don't, point them in the SR direction and let them shop for themselves.

I can afford to lose $45.  It's the principal that bugs me.  The fact that I got nothing and as a vendor he didn't try anything to make it right and I'm worried the same will happen to other people who buy from him.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: omnadren on May 03, 2012, 03:47 am

thats why people should research and make their own decision, aint nothing wrong with  you sharing your experience with aa. I personally want a 100 defcons but decided to go with pd as he be a safer bet at the moment

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: robin999 on May 04, 2012, 05:42 am

Can't say enough good things about AA, I've been getting packages from him to the US for at least 6 months and haven't lost a single one. Maybe I'm lucky but he's definitely one of the most consistent sellers here. You guys go on these crazy witch hunts after you get scammed because you're pissed about it and want to blame somebody. Maybe if you did a bit more research and ordered from somebody who's been here for almost a year (like AA) you'd have gotten your drugs and not gotten scammed.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: AAkoven on May 04, 2012, 06:06 am

This will be my last post on this forum..
There are to many trolls, and thee drinking bitches here..WTF.  ;D

Am here so long i dont need this shit.
1 note the Russians   are  the biggest assholes...always give 1\5  for 2 gr speed..wen it not arrive...   :o
What a fucking assholes ".

AAkoven  8)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: pullinbreezy on May 07, 2012, 12:23 pm

US buyer here. Horrible experience with AAkoven. I am going to share the last bit of our conversation so everyone can see how unprofessional he handles an issue. I will not be using AA again. Please be cautious if you choose to use him. You will have to start at the bottom of the conversation and come up to read it in order.

aakoven(97)   re: subject
I don't think that you did resend\ well u know it...all right.
u are a donkie.. WE are not like U.
u think i need 30 $...eghhhhh there are so many asshole on the road now.
damn before only good people know about this place , the smart.!!

pullinbreezy   re: subject
I don't think that you did resend. At the very least I should have gotten a customs letter.

aakoven(97)   re: subject
did I re send........or not

pullinbreezy   re: subject
I don't know what you are trying to say.

aakoven(97)   re: subject
did a re send........or not.did a re send........or not.

pullinbreezy   re: subject
So, will you resend product?

aakoven(97)   re: subject
I did a re send........or not.
or boxx have a red flag.

of your opinion on my country \ http://www.youtube.com/user/GeraldCelenteChannel

Aa

pullinbreezy   re: subject
Well, regardless of your opinion on my country, I have never had any previous issues and have not had any issues since, just you. If you would resend the product I would be very grateful. If not, I will simply leave honest and accurate feedback and a review on the forums.

aakoven(97)   re: subject
btw po box is a flag, U life in a cooperate , fascist, country .
with no rights <
fubar.

AA

pullinbreezy   re: subject
I have checked every piece of mail that I have gotten and no edit for package description**** . Nobody else has access to my PO Box. Nobody else could have gotten it.

aakoven(97)   re: subject
edit for package description****..how someone can find it?

beat me.

pullinbreezy   re: subject
It goes go a PO Box. I am the only one with a key to it. I get every other package with no problem. You can see my buyer stats. I have had lots of transactions and several international orders. Also, I made 5 orders on 4/20 and all of those arrived perfectly and in a timely manner.

aakoven(97)   re: subject
that means ..someone steal.it...yeah.
your room m8 , or........

pullinbreezy   re: subject
It's been over 3 weeks since the second shipment and I still have not received anything. I find it very hard to believe that two packages have now been sent and I haven't gotten either of them and no customs letter.

I think that resorting to insults is never acceptable. I have been on SR for a long time now with many transactions and a 0% refund rate. Many vendors on SR can vouch that I am an honest buyer. I just want to share my experience with AA.

_________________________________________
Mod edit for packaging description...also thinking about removing entire post for posting Private Messages.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: oppyate on May 07, 2012, 03:53 pm

AAkoven has this on his vendor page:

"
I do my up most best to ship everything as quick as possible. I understand that waiting for your product sucks. I have been in that position many times.
I ask that you release the funds from Escrow once you have received the product, as quick as possible. You can always revise the rating later.
I honor my part of the deal, you honor yours. Thank you & I hope for your understanding."

it's the same as noregia has on his...??

Maybe he knows Noriega intimately?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: MrSnott on May 07, 2012, 03:59 pm

I will know for sure if AA tries to screw me over. I have never had an issue with the address he sent to since it was moved into 7 years ago and I have gotten MUCH MUCH bigger packages before many times.

I made a 10 gram MDMA order from him and he tells me that any orders 10g+ he ships to the UK first and someone there ships to the US. I hope this is true, otherwise from now on the only person I get MDMA from is SKYY.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Holly on May 07, 2012, 04:17 pm

Quote from: oppyate on May 07, 2012, 03:53 pm

AAkoven has this on his vendor page:

"
I do my up most best to ship everything as quick as possible. I understand that waiting for your product sucks. I have been in that position many times.
I ask that you release the funds from Escrow once you have received the product, as quick as possible. You can always revise the rating later.
I honor my part of the deal, you honor yours. Thank you & I hope for your understanding."

it's the same as noregia has on his...??

Maybe he knows Noriega intimately?

Aakoven is my #1 buddy on this site I trust the man with my family's life.  The reason why
him and noriega had similar pages was cause noriega intentionally copied off aakoven's page .....

Aakoven is number fucking one :)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: bampot on May 07, 2012, 05:11 pm

^ I second this.  He is my number 1 seller.  In fact he is pretty much my ONLY seller these days.  Apart from some slightly lazy packaging in the past (which now seems to be fixed), and some interesting English (but hey, it's not like I can speak Dutch or anything!) I cannot find a single fault.  His efficiency is actually pretty unbelievable - better than any "real" company I have ever dealt with.....

I can't help but notice that all the people complaining seem to be American.  The US has very good (or bad, depending how you look at it) customs.  Americans are taking a much bigger risk than others ordering from SR, and especially from the Netherlands.  If you don't like his packaging, or the fact that it didn't turn up, I suggest that you do as he says and buy from someone else!  Find someone who will vacuum-pack, re-route, split packages....whatever it takes.

You may just have to pay a bit more for the privilege of living the American Dream!  But personally I wouldn't dream of coming on here and accusing one of the longest-running sellers on SR of selective scamming just because I didn't receive a package (or even two for that matter).

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: fidocscentral on May 07, 2012, 05:19 pm

I ordered from AAkoven for the past 5 months and received every package ranging from 50-1000 defqons parcels maxing out at 250 pieces in each one.

All of them got here. He is funny and I like and trust him. Yes, his packaging needs work, a small investment to keep his customers would be awesome.

I'll still stand behind him.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: insomniac on May 07, 2012, 06:06 pm

Quote from: robin999 on May 04, 2012, 05:42 am

Can't say enough good things about AA, I've been getting packages from him to the US for at least 6 months and haven't lost a single one. Maybe I'm lucky but he's definitely one of the most consistent sellers here. You guys go on these crazy witch hunts after you get scammed because you're pissed about it and want to blame somebody. Maybe if you did a bit more research and ordered from somebody who's been here for almost a year (like AA) you'd have gotten your drugs and not gotten scammed.

Exactly what this man said. AA has been a good, loyal seller for a long time to me. I only lost one package from him and it was my fault for not putting the complete address. And for AA's and SR's sake

STOP POSTING PRIVATE MESSAGES AND DETAILS ABOUT PACKAGES

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: tonic on May 07, 2012, 09:18 pm

No need to try to destroy this man's reputation just because of one botched order.

I have recently ordered from AAkoven twice in the US. First order when directly NL->US, other went through his reshipper. Both arrived in less than 10 days. A few pills were broken, but no biggy, they are legit and great. Can't say enough good things about AAkoven.

I know there is some selective scamming that goes on in terms of NL->US shipments, but I doubt AAkoven is one of them.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: tonic on May 07, 2012, 09:19 pm

Quote from: MrSnott on May 02, 2012, 08:59 am

Can anyone here from the US confirm shipping times to the US in larger amounts since the NL-UK-US thing?

West Coast took about 9 days using this method. Almost as fast as direct.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: element12 on May 08, 2012, 05:22 am

Quote from: insomniac on May 07, 2012, 06:06 pm

STOP POSTING PRIVATE MESSAGES AND DETAILS ABOUT PACKAGES

None of the private messages posted have had any details about location or packaging.  Why are we not allowed to post private messages?  Just want people to see what an interaction with AAkoven is like.

Quote from: tonic on May 07, 2012, 09:18 pm

No need to try to destroy this man's reputation just because of one botched order.

Ignoring posts from people with problems with packaging alone...
I will count mine as 1...

2: "I've got a friend who was fucked in USA cause of aakovens packaging... knock and talk and shit for a couple pills...."
3: "Maybe I'm being a little harsh on aakoven but $1000 is allot for me and I've been -$1000 for 17 days... I owe people money now. WTF am i going to do?"
4: "Damn, your story is exactly the same as mine.

i made an order for some mdma, 18 days later no package"
5: "US buyer here. Horrible experience with AAkoven."

This is not one botched order but several.  I did research to confirm I was not the only one.  None of the people that posted received letters from customs either.  Coincidence?  Maybe.

I made this post to warn buyers, not because I have a grudge against AA for $40.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: themessenger2 on May 08, 2012, 05:52 am

Quit ripping on people for bringing up legitimate concerns about vendors. That's the same shit a lot of Tony's fans did when someone had a problem. Problems happen, but there is nothing wrong about being honest on the forums.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: unregisturd on May 08, 2012, 09:33 am

OK well.

I ordered 6 weeks ago, still nothing.

He said he resent around 3 weeks ago, still nothing.

When I inquired about it he shifts the blame onto my "room mates" of which I have none...

Strange....

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Bob Arctor on May 08, 2012, 09:41 am

You get a reship and then you ask for refund? That's not how resolution center works. You get either refund of resend, not both, and if I were you I would get slightly worried about ordering to that address again..

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: darthvaderstar on May 08, 2012, 04:34 pm

His first shipment never came, his 50% shipment which he gave(didn't give options) never came it's been a month, in the end i feel as if he may have never ever sent the shipments. This was my second order on SR about a month ago, and i made the mistake of finalizing early, lesson learned. My other orders around SR have been successful except for this one. This is US.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Kappacino on May 08, 2012, 04:48 pm

It looks as if Aakoven and Noriega have been selectively scamming US vendors by claiming "us customs got stricter"

Now this is fucking bullshit. Why aren't the other NL vendors having the same problems? Because its horse shit that's why.

It's understandable that a few orders get seized but not this many. Scamming pieces of shit.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: MrSnott on May 09, 2012, 01:41 am

I ordered my 10g from AAkoven because SKYY had taken that recent break. I would have waited if I had known it wouldn't be long before he came back. Though if AAkovens shit does make it and it is good, I would continue to order from him in larger amounts.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: simplyanon on May 09, 2012, 01:48 am

Quote from: perky/pesky on May 08, 2012, 04:58 pm

I dont get it...

Doesnt SKYY have better pills and mdma? Arent his prices cheaper, communication perfect and has U.S. 100% landing rate?

wtf?

I honestly can not believe I'm about to say this. But, yea, what perky said.

Honestly, I don't order out of the domestic US for the simple fact that I don't feel like dealing with customs. And if I DID, it would be from SKYY, or a UK vendor. Probably Canada.

There's too many horror stories about AA and the Netherlands.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Jeromaya on May 09, 2012, 03:51 am

I don't think you quite understand the drop in the ocean that your order was.
The number of reassuring emails aa must send out a day. Hes a machine.
He is not omnipotent, if he says wait a few days he doesn't mean that he
has seen the future.
His success here speaks for itself, even when his packaging was a bit :/ people
wanted his top notch gear.
YOU the BUYER should choose your vendor based on your needs.
If you need regular volume buy off a boss like aa, if you need your hand held
the whole way find someone less busy.
Also did you reship to the same address if so  ???

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Jeromaya on May 09, 2012, 03:56 am

Quote from: Kappacino on May 08, 2012, 04:48 pm

It looks as if Aakoven and Noriega have been selectively scamming US vendors by claiming "us customs got stricter"

Now this is fucking bullshit. Why aren't the other NL vendors having the same problems? Because its horse shit that's why.

It's understandable that a few orders get seized but not this many. Scamming pieces of shit.

I don't think "us customs got stricter".

But they are looking for things differently, same in my country.
I think there is too obvious of a formula to how alot of vendors package.
Its time to get creative.  ;)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: smokeweed420 on May 09, 2012, 04:17 am

AAkoven is right when he says that sr is diffrent now. i remember when i joined 7 months ago people acted way different . there was a sense of love here, and understanding. when im ordering from the netherlands and it doesnt arrive i eat the loss. these arent street dealers. if a package doesnt arrive they have to pay for it too. its ridiculous how some people act here now, leaving 3/5 feedback for crushed pills... and crucifying vendors when something goes wrong, its the buyers responsibility to be smart and choose wisely who they order from. at this rate sr will fall apart. there are a ridiculous amount of assholes here who take for granted the service they are getting. I live in the USA and here the best ecstasy pills have maybe 60mg of mdma in them.. and "molly" is just a bunch of "roll like" rcs. i for one greatly appreciate the service that is given to me here, and the chance to indulge in some of the best quality drugs from all over the world. On another note i ordered 10 grams of mdma from aakoven and it arrived here in 10 days...Do you know how many scammers he has to deal with every day with his level of transactions? im sure its very hard to differentiate between whos a scam buyer and whos not. hes an awesome dude and there is no reason to slander him here just because you had a few issues. and after a package didnt arrive you ordered it to the same address? thats your bad. if you feel so strongly about this leave silk road and never come back. just my opinion... i dont mean any offense.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on May 09, 2012, 05:29 am

Havent been on here because of how furious I am at the fuckinbullshit that happened with AA...ordered march 22nd and two Weeks nothing so I messaged him-he "reshipped" and I still haven't gotten shit...

im not even gonna bother reading this entire thread but he ripped me off or fuckin cant pack a envelope to save his life

Irresponsible vendor that fucked me over-done with NL period.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: shadh1 on May 09, 2012, 05:39 am

hey guys , prob good that I jump in this one briefly , Ive bought off aakoven in the past and its always been good , albeit sometimes a little underweight but ive received 5  - 50g lots off him so far and just awaiting the 6th

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 09, 2012, 06:07 am

Quote from: MrSnott on May 09, 2012, 01:41 am

I ordered my 10g from AAkoven because SKYY had taken that recent break. I would have waited if I had known it wouldn't be long before he came back. Though if AAkovens shit does make it and it is good, I would continue to order from him in larger amounts.

I ordered 10 grams of MDMA from AAkoven as well on May 2nd. I really hope it actually shows up, but for some reason I have a bad feeling about him; maybe it's his lackadaisical attitude in response to everything you ask him. I hate that his policy is 50% refund or resend. If you have to finalize early, that should mean that the vendor feels confident enough in his shipping/packing abilities that the package will get to it's destination on the first run. SKYY conveys this very message, so much that his products say "border-proof delivery" on them.

If my first package from AAkoven arrives I will retract this statement and apologize greatly. I have just been reading too many horror stories revolving around this vendor that I am actually placing an order from SKYY as soon as my BTC arrives. I am sure that it will arrive hitch-free.

@Mr. Snott: would you please keep the forum posted on if/when you receive a package? I will do the same. I placed an order of 10 grams and finalized early before I stumbled upon this thread. My stomach about dropped out of my ass when I read this thread for the first time.

-Heteroplasmy

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 09, 2012, 07:26 am

Quote from: DeadRa7 on May 09, 2012, 05:29 am

Havent been on here because of how furious I am at the fuckinbullshit that happened with AA...ordered march 22nd and two Weeks nothing so I messaged him-he "reshipped" and I still haven't gotten shit...

im not even gonna bother reading this entire thread but he ripped me off or fuckin cant pack a envelope to save his life

Irresponsible vendor that fucked me over-done with NL period.

What country are you from?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on May 09, 2012, 08:02 am

Midwest USA...go read my posts from his thread from back in march-I was gonna order from skyy but right when I put my btc on his shit went up to a hundred a gram all the way up so I ordered 5 from AA...two packages failed, no customs letter.

And the bitch of it is that I was upmost respectful to this guy but two orders gone and now this thread.

AA-stand by your product with decent shipping, this guy actually said that dogs dont check for mdma, what a crock.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: White Light on May 09, 2012, 09:11 am

Quote from: Kappacino on May 08, 2012, 04:48 pm

It looks as if Aakoven and Noriega have been selectively scamming US vendors by claiming "us customs got stricter"

Now this is fucking bullshit. Why aren't the other NL vendors having the same problems? Because its horse shit that's why.

It's understandable that a few orders get seized but not this many. Scamming pieces of shit.

Hello,
In fact I think I have read this "selective scammers theory" about almost all reputable NL sellers : Dr Amsterdam, DBQ, Chemical Brother, etc. Always from american buyers.
Aakoven is a good seller, if you don't a agree with his conditions just go to another vendor.

I remember a US buyer who was complaining he was scammed by Dr Amsterdam because he never received 2 packages of 10g MDMA. A few months later he started a thread explaining he has been busted.
So, if you didn't get your package, you should try to watch the situation from another point of view : what consequences if Aakoven did send the packages and if they were seized ?

WL

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 09, 2012, 10:29 am

Quote from: DeadRa7 on May 09, 2012, 08:02 am

Midwest USA...go read my posts from his thread from back in march-I was gonna order from skyy but right when I put my btc on his shit went up to a hundred a gram all the way up so I ordered 5 from AA...two packages failed, no customs letter.

And the bitch of it is that I was upmost respectful to this guy but two orders gone and now this thread.

AA-stand by your product with decent shipping, this guy actually said that dogs dont check for mdma, what a crock.

I am from Midwest USA also! Oh my God... I hope I get my order. For  my first order I ordered 10 grams. I feel like I am getting sadder and sadder as I keep readimg in this thread..

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: MrSnott on May 09, 2012, 07:24 pm

Oh don't worry, I will most certainly raise hell if the situation with DeadRa7 happens with me. I have EXTREMELY solid addresses and not a single one of them has lost anything at all from order on SR yet. I even got a sample from a new cannabis vendor DIRECTLY from NL and it arrived today. I had it shipped the same day and he shipped direct from NL. Now I understand he says he ships to someone in the UK first for orders of 10g or more so I would understand it not being here yet. I am close enough to the midwest that you could consider me part of it so I am in the same boat.

I would be very suspicious if he claims some shit especially being shipped from the UK. I have had so many illegal products shipped from there and never once lost a package (majority of which were outside SR).

If the package doesn't arrive, I will not ask for a reship from him. I will simply ask for a 50% refund and take my cash to skyy.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: zerostate976 on May 09, 2012, 07:55 pm

I have had 100% success with AA (and all the other .NL vendors)  His MDMA comes well packaged and quick.   Ordering something for .NL is risky, if you dont want to take that risk dont order. Simple. Then you wont need to bitch. Order from Domestic, then complain about quality.  I have had pills thrown into a bag and sent and they made it just fine from a different vendor. I think the majority are trying to get extra shit. Soon vendors wont fuck around with anyone without a supurb buyers streak.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: darthvaderstar on May 09, 2012, 08:05 pm

I should have never ordered from AA.. same with DeadRa7 i was respectful to the guy even when i could barely understanding what he is saying, he can't even give me a straight answer and replies with the same thing. If your still planning on ordering from AA and a reship becomes an option, DONT TAKE and just get your 50% refund back. And DON'T finalize early.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Horizons on May 09, 2012, 08:39 pm

I just got a package today from AA. I had placed the order during the 4/20 weekend. It took a longer-than-usual time to arrive, but it arrived. Exactly what I ordered, good packaging, no problems.

If AA broke bad, I don't see it. His MDMA is the shit, I've done great business with him in the past, and I certainly plan to do business with him again. I will note, though, that he was pretty laconic this time around.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: photon on May 09, 2012, 09:08 pm

I have had good luck with AA in the past with several transactions, always quick communication and prompt shipping (less than 2 weeks to central US), and the product that I received (crystal mdma) was simply amazing. I chose not to use him for my most recent order because other NL vendors will stay in escrow, but if I had to I would be willing to place another order with him. He has always seemed like an honest vendor with me.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on May 10, 2012, 12:43 am

I've decided to share with you all our messages from the time I ordered until about a month or so ago-remember to read from top down-his replies are

Quote

in the quotes

I just need to set the record straight about something-

Quote from: Jeromaya on May 09, 2012, 03:51 am

...The number of reassuring emails aa must send out a day. Hes a machine.
He is not omnipotent, if he says wait a few days he doesn't mean that he
has seen the future.
His success here speaks for itself, even when his packaging was a bit :/ people
wanted his top notch gear.
YOU the BUYER should choose your vendor based on your needs.
If you need regular volume buy off a boss like aa, if you need your hand held
the whole way find someone less busy.

With all do respect, You sir, Are a fucking idiot.  And I know that is impolite-but post's like that make me furious.  Let me explain why.

You say his success speaks for itself-Go look at his thread, shit look at this one-I understand people flip out when it's been more than a week or two but his "success" rating is bullshit on SR because they're all FE's-and I know that two packages didn't get to me.
And I should choose a seller thats "based on my needs".  Uhh, okay-I saw a listing for Molly and I ordered it from somebody who reassured me, the buyer, that I was good to order from him.  So you sir tell me how this is MY fault?  If he only wants to deal in "volume" then he can take his 5 gram listings down and deal with people who want more.

And no, I do not want my hand held-I wanted 5 grams of shit to arrive in my mailbox and patiently waited every day for a month and a half for nothing-do you even understand how grueling that was?  That fucking feeling that you get when you open your shit and its empty and then it hits you that, at the earliest, its gonna be another 24.  The point is, if you don't care about your customers (and 'caring' DOES go further than being nice on a PM) then GTFO.  I am a broke college student that pulled this money out of my ass to order this and lost upwards of $215 if i'm not mistaken.

The ONLY problem with this dude (and other NL vendors) is his packaging-I do not understand why that is such a hard concept to grasp.  Look at SKYY-his customers are almost always satisfied-his chief complaint is that "it took too long".  Also, for the record, I was going to order his shit but at the time (for those who remember) his shit went up to $100 a G for a while.  I should have waited.

AA-Order a fucking gram from SKYY and let him school you on how to package drugs correctly for export out of the hottest counties in the world.  Everything else with this dude is cool in my book-he's personable-funny-good price but that DOESN'T MEAN SHIT because I never got anything I ordered.

Again, his replies are in the quotes-read bottom up

Quote

aakoven(97)   re: Hey AA

:+) thxxxxxx    1 month   read
delete

DeadRa7   re: Hey AA

Dude your awesome, when my reship arrives ill make sure to give you a glowing review on the forums, and of course repeat business!

Have a good one brother, stay safe and prosper!   1 month

Quote

aakoven(97)   re: Hey AA

no its ok.........there is no red flag..~!

AA   1 month

DeadRa7   re: Hey AA

Do you know about when I should be expecting it? Also, I just realized that I gave you the same address, is that okay? Hope I didn't screw myself by that ;-(   1 month

Quote

aakoven(97)   re: Hey AA

well thxx for your kinds words.

lets go for it ok..take care.,m8.

AA   1 month

DeadRa7   re: Hey AA

AA-
Fuckers! If you really believe that's what happened, then that's fine, my address will be enclosed at the bottom of this email.

If by chance it does arrive out of nowhere, I will gladly let you know and reimburse you for the replacement package-this is a two way road brother and I want to establish a long lasting relationship with you on here.

I know your good people, which is why I decided to place an order through you-I will be placing several more here in the near future, and cannot stress how much I appreciate your customer service.

Thank you again man, I am excited to FINALLY get a taste of your amazing product :)

(address removed for obvious reasons)
1 month

(he sent me this video immediately after sending me the last message-some crappy 80's song)

Quote

aakoven(97)   re: Hey AA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEJdfDD4dVg   1 month

aakoven(97)   re: Hey AA

Quote

well customs was lucky...it can happen m8..
give me your address .
en i will re ship 50 %+ off your order,!!

dont worry.........AA don't let nobody hang to dry..   1 month

DeadRa7   Hey AA

Hey brother-

I am writing this to tell you that I have not yet received my shipment of 5 G's yet. I am starting to worry for the following reason, my man:

I ordered on Wednesday, march 21 and F.E. for you on Thursday, march 22

I checked the forums, and another member, "gusman17", also ordered the same day

He is Eastern U.S., I am Midwest

Gusman received his order on the 27th, I have yet to receive mine

Also, he said that he chose regular "international", i chose "priority"

I know that being in the midwest would take a little longer, but it doesn't make sense it would be a week.

AA, I'm sure you hate getting mail like this and I really do apologize brother, and I am sure as hell not asking for a refund or anything like that right now, but it just seems weird that he got his and I haven't got mine yet is all. I've been on the road only a month so far, so in your professional experience what do you think is going on?

I am sorry to take up your valuable time man, I just cannot stop thinking about this order and i'm so confused as to why its not here :(    1 month

Quote

aakoven(97)   re: F.E.?

thxx u.!

AA   1 month

DeadRa7   re: F.E.?

Done, thank you brother   1 month

Quote

aakoven(97)   re: F.E.?

yes plz..thxx...

AA   1 month

DeadRa7   F.E.?

Just placed an order, f.e. required?   1 month

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: MrSnott on May 10, 2012, 02:19 am

I didn't finalize early and if my order doesn't arrive before the autofinalize, I am just hitting the resolve button to get a 50% refund.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: kolom0nster on May 10, 2012, 03:06 am

I had an order that didn't arrive for about 20 days, AA offered a 50% reship and that showed up to USA in 5 days last week.

I've had several transactions with AA and this is the first that didn't show.  He's been nothing but a professional every time and I'll gladly deal with him again.  I was happy with 50% considering we share the risk every time and this was the first issue that's come up.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: darthvaderstar on May 10, 2012, 03:26 pm

I honestly believe he selectively scams US..

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on May 11, 2012, 05:04 am

Quote from: darthvaderstar on May 10, 2012, 03:26 pm

I honestly believe he selectively scams US..

I don't know  what to believe...I WANT to believe that it was a honest mistake but I dont know...it greatly upsets me but hell, shit happens.  Tony was my first transaction and loom what happened with him-he was also "trustworthy"...I just don't understand that with how courteous I was to him that he would scam me-fuck I offered him repeat business but that's blown now...

Anyone know any reputable vendors in the UK?  Im just done with NL from this experience-I am taking too many C.H. To work and can't afford to  gamble on here

This sucks plain and   simple-but I guess, like I said, shit happens.

Good luck buyers-may your orders come in fast and heavy

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: AAkoven on May 11, 2012, 06:29 am

Quote from: darthvaderstar on May 10, 2012, 03:26 pm

I honestly believe he selectively scams US..

yeah your right , i fucked u over...dont ask me why mebe it was your name...?
But after 11 months here, i fucked one over..for 5 gr...mdma..yeah , I gut not help my self.! :P

If u dont like MY terms..dont order go to someone else.!!
If some one did not get his re,ship that happen mebe , 1-500  but He it`s always MY fold .!!

IF u send 15-20 things a day yes some will not arrive.
Ask every seller.
If I give 100 % then i have so many scammers on my hand.
But the trolls don,t think about that .!!

I go now to the bar spent the money from dark fucker...drinks for every one.....

Posted by: DeadRa7
@ (he sent me this video immediately after sending me the last message-some crappy 80's song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEJdfDD4dVg

Well here u go..now i know why i did not re send for u...U did not like my video ... ::)

AA 8)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: ZeddBaby on May 11, 2012, 06:39 am

I order a listing from AA that said "does not ship to US" and i got my shit. He's alright in my book,

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: KatEverdeen209 on May 11, 2012, 06:45 am

Ordered my first with AA the other day, have tons of faith that it'll make it and even though its always shitty to see the Guy you just bought from being flamed in a thread that says he fails to deliver, in these types of markets we gotta just trust who seems honest and go for it.

He has been more than nice and has chatted it up with me quite a bit. Cool Guy for sure. Ill update when it gets here for sure. =]

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 13, 2012, 12:14 pm

Quote from: MrSnott on May 09, 2012, 07:24 pm

Oh don't worry, I will most certainly raise hell if the situation with DeadRa7 happens with me. I have EXTREMELY solid addresses and not a single one of them has lost anything at all from order on SR yet. I even got a sample from a new cannabis vendor DIRECTLY from NL and it arrived today. I had it shipped the same day and he shipped direct from NL. Now I understand he says he ships to someone in the UK first for orders of 10g or more so I would understand it not being here yet. I am close enough to the midwest that you could consider me part of it so I am in the same boat.

I would be very suspicious if he claims some shit especially being shipped from the UK. I have had so many illegal products shipped from there and never once lost a package (majority of which were outside SR).

If the package doesn't arrive, I will not ask for a reship from him. I will simply ask for a 50% refund and take my cash to skyy.

My sentiments exactly... If my first order of 10 grams doesn't arrive I will also just ask for a 50% refund. I have high hopes and expectations of AAkoven; I am hoping that all of the people bad mouthing him are just other vendors trying to give him a bad name (this could also be the case). AAkoven sure hasn't stayed within the top 2% of SR for almost a year by selectively scamming people, so I am hoping that all of this negative talk on him is false. Other vendors could have people working for them that are deliberately bad mouthing AAkoven.... just throwing that out there for thought

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: madma on May 13, 2012, 04:59 pm

i hope you guys will get what you ordered!

but i would not take the risk ordering from someone who vouched for Noregia (he said he knows him IRL) and did not even make a statement about his "friend" scamming many people.

also his vendor page has some similar text to noregias and he also stopped shipping to US...

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: andyki on May 13, 2012, 10:26 pm

Quote from: AAkoven on May 11, 2012, 06:29 am

Posted by: DeadRa7
@ (he sent me this video immediately after sending me the last message-some crappy 80's song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEJdfDD4dVg

Well here u go..now i know why i did not re send for u...U did not like my video ... ::)

AA 8)

Cheesy video AA... you can do better ;)

Try this one... Secret Circle - Touch in the Night

I live for the 1980s :D

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: White Light on May 14, 2012, 09:23 am

Quote from: madma on May 13, 2012, 04:59 pm

i hope you guys will get what you ordered!

but i would not take the risk ordering from someone who vouched for Noregia (he said he knows him IRL) and did not even make a statement about his "friend" scamming many people.

also his vendor page has some similar text to noregias and he also stopped shipping to US...

Personally I would "take the risk" because Aakoven is one of the most experienced and reliable vendor on SR, he is here since almost one year and I always be pleased with his services.
And I won't listen the advice of a newbie who is on this forum since less than 3 weeks and who spreads rumors about one of the most solid vendor of SR.

To US buyers : are you not tired of this "selective scamming" assertions ?! I have read this shit about all the big NL vendors...
Don't you understand it's risky to send from NL to USA ?
I understand you would like to order best quality MDMA, at the best price, fast delivery and no taking any risks. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way...

WL

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 14, 2012, 10:56 am

Quote from: White Light on May 14, 2012, 09:23 am

Quote from: madma on May 13, 2012, 04:59 pm

i hope you guys will get what you ordered!

but i would not take the risk ordering from someone who vouched for Noregia (he said he knows him IRL) and did not even make a statement about his "friend" scamming many people.

also his vendor page has some similar text to noregias and he also stopped shipping to US...

Personally I would "take the risk" because Aakoven is one of the most experienced and reliable vendor on SR, he is here since almost one year and I always be pleased with his services.
And I won't listen the advice of a newbie who is on this forum since less than 3 weeks and who spreads rumors about one of the most solid vendor of SR.

To US buyers : are you not tired of this "selective scamming" assertions ?! I have read this shit about all the big NL vendors...
Don't you understand it's risky to send from NL to USA ?
I understand you would like to order best quality MDMA, at the best price, fast delivery and no taking any risks. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way...

WL

I took the risk because he has a remailer in the UK so it goes NL -----> UK -----> USA

WAYYYYYY WAYYYY LESS RISK! I don't think I have EVER had a package coming from the UK seized.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: MrSnott on May 14, 2012, 02:55 pm

This will be the first package of over 20 that were illegal coming from the UK I haven't received. I truly do believe he selectively scams US buyers. There are just too many US buyers that don't receive their product.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: madma on May 14, 2012, 02:59 pm

Quote from: Heteroplasmy on May 14, 2012, 10:56 am

Quote from: White Light on May 14, 2012, 09:23 am

Quote from: madma on May 13, 2012, 04:59 pm

i hope you guys will get what you ordered!

but i would not take the risk ordering from someone who vouched for Noregia (he said he knows him IRL) and did not even make a statement about his "friend" scamming many people.

also his vendor page has some similar text to noregias and he also stopped shipping to US...

Personally I would "take the risk" because Aakoven is one of the most experienced and reliable vendor on SR, he is here since almost one year and I always be pleased with his services.
And I won't listen the advice of a newbie who is on this forum since less than 3 weeks and who spreads rumors about one of the most solid vendor of SR.

To US buyers : are you not tired of this "selective scamming" assertions ?! I have read this shit about all the big NL vendors...
Don't you understand it's risky to send from NL to USA ?
I understand you would like to order best quality MDMA, at the best price, fast delivery and no taking any risks. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way...

WL

I took the risk because he has a remailer in the UK so it goes NL -----> UK -----> USA

WAYYYYYY WAYYYY LESS RISK! I don't think I have EVER had a package coming from the UK seized.

Well i see no advice in what i wrote just my opinion on this matter.

If someone vouches for anyone IRL i will also hold that person responsible if i get scammed...the same rules aply for me on SR.
As you state Aakoven is one of the "most" trusted sellers so what was tony or noregia then a month ago?

As i see Aakoven never really made any clear statement on what happened with noregia...the guy which is to be trusted acording to Aakoven.

or did anything change there Aakoven?? i just want a clear statement from you there

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: White Light on May 14, 2012, 04:08 pm

Quote from: madma on May 14, 2012, 02:59 pm

As you state Aakoven is one of the "most" trusted sellers so what was tony or noregia then a month ago?

Personally I have never considered Noriega as one the trusted sellers, he started to sell in the beginning of the year, I have dealt with him once and stayed in escrow, and I was not really satisfied with his package and communication.
Moreover I am a bit afraid to see how fast a regular seller becomes a "trusted seller" now on SR... I don't know about Tony, he didn't ship to EU so I never cared about him.

Quote from: madma on May 14, 2012, 02:59 pm

As i see Aakoven never really made any clear statement on what happened with noregia...the guy which is to be trusted acording to Aakoven.

In fact I think there is a post where he replied about it.

WL

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: madma on May 15, 2012, 06:08 pm

Aakoven sent me a PM,  glad he did.

makes me see things in a different and better light.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: KatEverdeen209 on May 15, 2012, 09:44 pm

Well as a new member to the forum I'm sure my post will be taken lightly but I've just received an order (west coast) from AA in under a week including Sunday =]

there is one thing I noticed (and I don't want anybody to take this an accusation but rather an observation) there is no tracking. And this leaves me believe there is a wide open window for people to claim no shows on packages. Again I'm not saying this is what happens but its a huge possibilty. I can easily see how one could exploit that.

My package made it in great shape and im no better than anyone else to not scam.

Anyways here's to my first successful order. I wish you all better luck

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: MrSnott on May 17, 2012, 12:24 am

KatEverdeen how much did you order from AA? It seems like the majority of his 1 and 2g packages make it. I have no desire to scam anyone. I would rather have a good buyer status.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: PePinJeNek on May 17, 2012, 12:48 am

Quote from: AAkoven on May 11, 2012, 06:29 am

Quote from: darthvaderstar on May 10, 2012, 03:26 pm

I honestly believe he selectively scams US..

yeah your right , i fucked u over...dont ask me why mebe it was your name...?
But after 11 months here, i fucked one over..for 5 gr...mdma..yeah , I gut not help my self.! :P

If u dont like MY terms..dont order go to someone else.!!
If some one did not get his re,ship that happen mebe , 1-500  but He it`s always MY fold .!!

IF u send 15-20 things a day yes some will not arrive.
Ask every seller.
If I give 100 % then i have so many scammers on my hand.
But the trolls don,t think about that .!!

I go now to the bar spent the money from dark fucker...drinks for every one.....

Posted by: DeadRa7
@ (he sent me this video immediately after sending me the last message-some crappy 80's song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEJdfDD4dVg

Well here u go..now i know why i did not re send for u...U did not like my video ... ::)

AA 8)

Lol.. doe mij maar een fluitje..

Hey AA

How about this, I know it is far fetched and quiet a wild idea
but what if you would ship 1 x a week from belgium or germany?
It would obviouly depend where u live but in NL
from 50% of holland you could be in germany in 1.5 hour.
25% of holland you could be in Belgium under 1.5 hour

However I suspect you live in the remaining 25% NH or ZH (but if not)

The con would be that the order would be send later than normal
but the german postage wil make up for that because they're heaps faster
dan the dutch from my experience.

Anyhow it was just an idea.
Maybe only for your large orderes?

Because you seem to have a lot of parcels going to wasted
and that makes me a sad panda.

Peace..landgenoot

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Heteroplasmy on May 17, 2012, 08:39 am

Just received 10 grams  of MDMA from AAkoven; packaged very discreetly! It came in the  people bashing AAkoen are probably competing vendors...

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: fidocscentral on May 17, 2012, 01:30 pm

Quote from: Heteroplasmy on May 17, 2012, 08:39 am

Just received 10 grams  of MDMA from AAkoven; packaged very discreetly! It came in the  people bashing AAkoen are probably competing vendors...

Glad it worked out bud 8)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Kappacino on May 17, 2012, 02:01 pm

Quote from: fidocscentral on May 17, 2012, 01:30 pm

Quote from: Heteroplasmy on May 17, 2012, 08:39 am

Just received 10 grams  of MDMA from AAkoven; packaged very discreetly! It came in the  people bashing AAkoen are probably competing vendors...

Glad it worked out bud 8)

The reason people are accusing Aakoven is because he associates with the utter piece of shit scammer Noriega (who still owes many many people product and doesn't even have the courtesy to explain himself) in real life and knows him. (oh its not his fault blah blah I already hear you shut your fucking mouth)

Also, you keep failing to notice this dinstinction Aakoven, so perhaps I'll hammer it home one more fucking time for you. You ready? Get google translate up if you need it. Get your hearing aid, pull the strap-on out of your ass, wipe Noriegas lips clean, and pay fucking attention. Why is it that out of all the Dutch vendors, you and Noriega have the most US seizures?

Why do I not see the same complaints about chemical brothers, or skyy, or halpern, or one of the MYRIAD of dutch vendors, using exactly the same postal service as you?

So yes, you don't need to repeat for the 15 fucking millionth time that "if you send out a lot of orders, some get seized". Yes Aakoven, some get seized. Some get seized, and noone tells you about it. Some get seized, and you get a customs letter.

Yet with your and Noriega's seizures, NO-ONE has received a customs letter?

"Oh well sometimes customs doesn't contact you"

Yes, thank you for stating the obvious there, but why has NO-ONE received a customs letter with one of your seizures? Literally fucking noone at all, and I've been following all these threads, and your feedback, as Noriega's, and the rest of the dutch vendors like a fucking HAWK.

I don't deny that you do many legit transactions, and I suspect now that you know people suspect you that you will be coming through with all your US orders and we will be hearing about it on the forums, and suddenly everything is fine.

But you can't pull the wool over a fucking hawk's eyes, and I'd bet my summer drug stash on the fact that you and your buddy were selectively scamming the US (you even had it on your vendor profile that US customs had upped their game.. Nicely done there, nice). That is, before Noriega fucked off altogether. Yet I've been paying attention this whole time and watching this situation very closely.

And one question gives you right the fuck away, and I'll be shocked, but not astounded if you can actually answer it - why was there a spell of time over march-april where your US orders were getting seized at a RIDICULOUS rate (much much much much more than the 5% statistic you love to talk bout), but the other dutch vendors weren't having the same problem?

What was it, was it your packaging? Did your drops get identified? Or did US customs just "up their game" for only you and your pal? Or did you talk to each other and think "hey man we can claim these orders didn't arrive and make an extra 30% markup"? And also, whilst I'm in the business of asking questions, where the fuck is your pal noriega? You know, the guy you know, that owes thousands of dollars to people. I mean it's not a big deal or anything, your connections to a known scammer, not your fault or anything, not your responsibility, yeah. Keep telling us how it's nothing to do with you, you never know, you're probably right.

Your story is nonsense. And I'm not the sort of person to make baseless accusations. So grats to all the people in the US that are now receiving orders, but the damage has already been done.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: MrSnott on May 17, 2012, 04:32 pm

I have an apology to make to AAkoven. I am sorry for doubting you! I just received my package of 10g today and it was overweight by .5 of a gram. I ordered May 2nd and just received May 17th. The product is as expected and will certainly do business with again! I feel so bad for jumping to my conclusion thinking he scammed me so quickly. I am still new to SR and hope to always be a good buyer. Thank you AAkoven!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: sinister4ng3l on May 22, 2012, 10:15 am

I ordered 100 pills from him almost two weeks ago and they still haven't come yet...I'm kind of freaking out because I need them for an event in a week and a half.  :-\

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: anony9015 on May 23, 2012, 01:45 pm

AA has no reason to selectively scam US people, why would he? Some get seized, some don't, I had a few things seized or lost in the post in the past (not from AA) but I never received a customs letter and I know they were sent 100%.

I currently have an order with AA which had not turned up after 2 weeks and he has offered me a 50% reship which I have accepted, I have no reason to doubt the man, he has but nothing but professional and the speed and high level of customer service has impressed me a lot!. Things go wrong with this kind of business thats that.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: insomniac on May 23, 2012, 06:04 pm

I'm in the same boat as you, anony. I did not receive the latest order from him, but I also saw that many people from the US also didn't receive theirs, so I'm thinking it's just a fluke in his orders that all got seized in the same time window. I also took him up on the re-ship offer, as I've never had problems with him in the past. 2 orders from him before made it in 6-7 days. Here's to hoping we both receive our re-ships!! I will definitely need mine soon as a big EDM event is right around the corner  ;)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: zebra420kitty on May 23, 2012, 08:57 pm

Quote from: element12 on May 01, 2012, 03:46 am

Well technically according to SR resolution policy a 50% refund is all that is required from the vendor.  But come one, two failed packages and no refund?  For all I know he could have never sent anything and pocketed the change.

you saying you didn't receive the reship is less credible then him saying that he sent it. also, maybe the problem was on your side? you provided the wrong address. or that customs caught the first package and now they watch your mail. not saying that your trying to scam him, you just need to see that there is a risk when you decide to have the postal services transport your goods.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: element12 on May 24, 2012, 08:59 am

It seems like most of the people defending AAkoven are saying that it's not his fault because customs seized the packages.

How is this not his fault?  How is AAkoven not able to get speed (a flat, schedule II powder) past customs but SKYY can sneak through all his MDMA and pills (schedule I, and much harder to fit in an envelope).

How did both Amsterdopes orders show up from the SAME country as AA, totally unharmed?

His refund policy is fair enough. I will concede 50% reship makes sense, although many vendors offer more.  I can't really fault him for it.

However I think customers have every right to wonder where their package is.  It is not the customers 'fault' for ordering from the Netherlands.  2 packages missing spells bad news.

The vendor's job is to make sure the product gets here.  Shoddy packaging is not only a loss of product, it also holds a potential danger from law enforcement to whoever is receiving it.  If AAkoven's packages truly "reeked of phet" as quoted in my first post, that is a huge problem and he needs to assume his responsibilities as a vendor.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: pullinbreezy on May 24, 2012, 12:52 pm

Quote from: element12 on May 24, 2012, 08:59 am

It seems like most of the people defending AAkoven are saying that it's not his fault because customs seized the packages.

How is this not his fault?  How is AAkoven not able to get speed (a flat, schedule II powder) past customs but SKYY can sneak through all his MDMA and pills (schedule I, and much harder to fit in an envelope).

How did both Amsterdopes orders show up from the SAME country as AA, totally unharmed?

His refund policy is fair enough. I will concede 50% reship makes sense, although many vendors offer more.  I can't really fault him for it.

However I think customers have every right to wonder where their package is.  It is not the customers 'fault' for ordering from the Netherlands.  2 packages missing spells bad news.

The vendor's job is to make sure the product gets here.  Shoddy packaging is not only a loss of product, it also holds a potential danger from law enforcement to whoever is receiving it.  If AAkoven's packages truly "reeked of phet" as quoted in my first post, that is a huge problem and he needs to assume his responsibilities as a vendor.

Agreed.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Horizons on May 24, 2012, 08:46 pm

Quote from: element12 on May 24, 2012, 08:59 am

It seems like most of the people defending AAkoven are saying that it's not his fault because customs seized the packages.

Actually, most of us got our packages. There's just a very vocal minority which seems to have had bad luck.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: sinister4ng3l on May 25, 2012, 12:13 am

Quote from: insomniac on May 23, 2012, 06:04 pm

I'm in the same boat as you, anony. I did not receive the latest order from him, but I also saw that many people from the US also didn't receive theirs, so I'm thinking it's just a fluke in his orders that all got seized in the same time window. I also took him up on the re-ship offer, as I've never had problems with him in the past. 2 orders from him before made it in 6-7 days. Here's to hoping we both receive our re-ships!! I will definitely need mine soon as a big EDM event is right around the corner  ;)

Same here!! When did you order from him? I ordered on the 8th and nothing's come in yet and I'm freaking out because these packages take FOREVER to come to the US.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Bronangen on May 25, 2012, 02:02 am

Was it a bad idea to order 2 grams of K to the US from him last night?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on May 25, 2012, 09:41 pm

Quote from: Kappacino on May 17, 2012, 02:01 pm

Quote from: fidocscentral on May 17, 2012, 01:30 pm

Quote from: Heteroplasmy on May 17, 2012, 08:39 am

Just received 10 grams  of MDMA from AAkoven; packaged very discreetly! It came in the  people bashing AAkoen are probably competing vendors...

Glad it worked out bud 8)

The reason people are accusing Aakoven is because he associates with the utter piece of shit scammer Noriega (who still owes many many people product and doesn't even have the courtesy to explain himself) in real life and knows him. (oh its not his fault blah blah I already hear you shut your fucking mouth)

Also, you keep failing to notice this dinstinction Aakoven, so perhaps I'll hammer it home one more fucking time for you. You ready? Get google translate up if you need it. Get your hearing aid, pull the strap-on out of your ass, wipe Noriegas lips clean, and pay fucking attention. Why is it that out of all the Dutch vendors, you and Noriega have the most US seizures?

Why do I not see the same complaints about chemical brothers, or skyy, or halpern, or one of the MYRIAD of dutch vendors, using exactly the same postal service as you?

So yes, you don't need to repeat for the 15 fucking millionth time that "if you send out a lot of orders, some get seized". Yes Aakoven, some get seized. Some get seized, and noone tells you about it. Some get seized, and you get a customs letter.

Yet with your and Noriega's seizures, NO-ONE has received a customs letter?

"Oh well sometimes customs doesn't contact you"

Yes, thank you for stating the obvious there, but why has NO-ONE received a customs letter with one of your seizures? Literally fucking noone at all, and I've been following all these threads, and your feedback, as Noriega's, and the rest of the dutch vendors like a fucking HAWK.

I don't deny that you do many legit transactions, and I suspect now that you know people suspect you that you will be coming through with all your US orders and we will be hearing about it on the forums, and suddenly everything is fine.

But you can't pull the wool over a fucking hawk's eyes, and I'd bet my summer drug stash on the fact that you and your buddy were selectively scamming the US (you even had it on your vendor profile that US customs had upped their game.. Nicely done there, nice). That is, before Noriega fucked off altogether. Yet I've been paying attention this whole time and watching this situation very closely.

And one question gives you right the fuck away, and I'll be shocked, but not astounded if you can actually answer it - why was there a spell of time over march-april where your US orders were getting seized at a RIDICULOUS rate (much much much much more than the 5% statistic you love to talk bout), but the other dutch vendors weren't having the same problem?

What was it, was it your packaging? Did your drops get identified? Or did US customs just "up their game" for only you and your pal? Or did you talk to each other and think "hey man we can claim these orders didn't arrive and make an extra 30% markup"? And also, whilst I'm in the business of asking questions, where the fuck is your pal noriega? You know, the guy you know, that owes thousands of dollars to people. I mean it's not a big deal or anything, your connections to a known scammer, not your fault or anything, not your responsibility, yeah. Keep telling us how it's nothing to do with you, you never know, you're probably right.

Your story is nonsense. And I'm not the sort of person to make baseless accusations. So grats to all the people in the US that are now receiving orders, but the damage has already been done.

Well said, when I get to however posts I need to +1 ya i got ya...

Does anybody have approx. statistics/opinion on how often letters are sent to buyers from customs about seized shit?  Like with packages  just up and disappearing randomly, it doesn't seem probable that customs would just randomly select who they're gonna send out letters to...Personally I never got a single one for a supposed two packages that were shipped to me which I thought was a little weird.

However, If it does take some time to send those out I moved out of my apartment early this month and the second package was sent out early-mid april so I may not get it since I don't have my name associated with anywhere I really live including drivers license.

The reason I'm wondering is because I am trying to think how I can help rule out honest mistakes on packaging or selectively scamming people.  If customs almost always sends out notices that they took shit going to that address, then mine and others orders were most likely not seized but in fact never sent.

Orders been coming in, SR?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: robin999 on May 26, 2012, 11:10 pm

Just wanted to update from what I posted earlier on this thread. I vouched for AA due to our 8 or so successful transactions over the past 8 months. My latest order was 30g to northeastern US which was sent on May 1. Took a loooong time compared to the other orders with him, but it just came in today 25 days later. He told me there were some mail delays during that time but I really thought it wasn't going to come through. VERY pleasant surprise to see the letter in my mailbox this afternoon. Anyway, AA is and always has been legit. Nice guy too.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: andyki on May 27, 2012, 05:10 am

There is also the possibility that parcels are getting intercepted by local customs before they even leave The Netherlands... That would explain the lack of a seizure letter in the receiving country.

That's what happened with a vendor in Canada.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Xbits on May 27, 2012, 06:11 am

I concur.

The very FIRST package I ordered from SR was from AAkoven.  He offered a reship with 1gr mdma but neither arrived.

I was pissed...

I heard he doesn't put a return address on them, can anyone confirm this?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: robin999 on May 27, 2012, 02:21 pm

There's always been a return address on my packages from him. The return address on this last package was actually very clever.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: beardfingers on May 28, 2012, 01:42 pm

his packaging is laughable,, nuff said

spare a steady supply of lube if u order for when u get fckd by the long dck of le

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on June 01, 2012, 01:39 am

Quote from: andyki on May 27, 2012, 05:10 am

There is also the possibility that parcels are getting intercepted by local customs before they even leave The Netherlands... That would explain the lack of a seizure letter in the receiving country.

That's what happened with a vendor in Canada.

Just to let you all know I just received a order of 10g of amazing molly from pfandleiher in under a week to the same destination-Leave this guy in the dust and go through PF he's dominating the market on here

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Horizons on June 05, 2012, 01:13 pm

What the hell are you guys on? I just got a letter from AA last Friday. Vacuum sealed, return address, irreproachable.

I'm starting to think that this is some sort of smear campaign.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: sinister4ng3l on June 05, 2012, 05:11 pm

Quote from: Horizons on June 05, 2012, 01:13 pm

What the hell are you guys on? I just got a letter from AA last Friday. Vacuum sealed, return address, irreproachable.

I'm starting to think that this is some sort of smear campaign.

Some of his packages make it and some of them don't. It's like that with every seller. I just think the people who ordered things from him a month ago didn't get it from him, mainly because of his re-shipper.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: fuckinblueboy on June 20, 2012, 05:16 pm

Just received pills from aakoven in Europe, no problem. Shipment was very fast and packaging was very good. Didn't try the product yet.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: dimitri45 on July 01, 2012, 06:53 pm

You people need to wake the fuck up.. Actual elite and loyal vendors here dont have this kind of controversy surrounding there names in the forums!!! It blows my mind how he is still referred to as a trusted seller. Just because some idiots received there packages and enjoy getting buttfucked by AA's scams doesnt make him reputable.  But i guess when you make everyone FE it is pretty easy to slide by on false accomplishments. Please smarten up people!! Putting 5/5 when you finalize early only targets you for SELECTIVE scammers such as AA, and only encourages vendors like this to make it a policy so that they can easily ship out FAKE product and act like they were none the wiser that there product is pure shitttt, and thats if they even ship your order at all.. If it doesnt arrive, 90% chance they didnt send it at all. And why would they "reship" if they didnt send it the first time. And then your trapped in their 50% Refund bullshit. How do you people explain his enormously higher rate for non received pckges than other NL vendors who use the same mailing system and have 99% delivery rate???

AA is by far the worst vendor I have ever had the misfortune of working with. It doesnt take much searching in the forums to find that AA fails to meet the standards of a Loyal vendor when it comes to PRODUCT, COMMUNICATION, RESOLUTION, or even simple RESPECT. His speed is complete garbage( maybe get 20% actual product if lucky) and his ketamine was a COMPLETE JOKE!! I did my full gram in one night just to see how bullshit it really was, and let me tell you it was pretty clear there was 0% ket in there!!! On top of scamming his costumers by sending them fake product, when confronted with this information he acts like we are high school druggies that wouldnt and couldnt know better. He treats his costumers with blatant disrespect by acting like we are uninformed and dont know anything on the drugs we choose to take. And continues to make an even bigger piece of shit of himself by pretending he doesnt have knowledge of the quality of his own products. He even admits to getting scammed by his dealers!! Which means he was in full knowledge when he passed on the scam to his buyers!!

If ever confronted on any of this nonsense his english returns to a toddler level and you will have no luck getting a reasonable or respecfull response. He is absolutely spineless and spits in all of your faces with with his deceitful bullshit.

BEWARE buyers(especially US) This one is not to be trusted!!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on July 01, 2012, 11:27 pm

+1 well said

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: inspiredflight on July 01, 2012, 11:41 pm

I don't order from Netherlands because of my only transaction from AAKOVEN.
I waited a full month and nothing arrived. I notified him and he offered a reship. I waited 3 more weeks and still nothing. I had faith that it would arrive but I was only disappointed. He offered a 25% refund. Never again.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on July 01, 2012, 11:50 pm

Quote from: inspiredflight on July 01, 2012, 11:41 pm

I don't order from Netherlands because of my only transaction from AAKOVEN.
I waited a full month and nothing arrived. I notified him and he offered a reship. I waited 3 more weeks and still nothing. I had faith that it would arrive but I was only disappointed. He offered a 25% refund. Never again.

Same here, minus the 25%...how'd you pull that off after the reship?  Would have been nice to have something back...arg, if this thread was only made before I placed my order this would have never happened...oh well, you live you learn-I hope that he's been monitoring this thread and taking the criticism seriously so he can hopefully improve the way he conducts business here.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: inspiredflight on July 01, 2012, 11:54 pm

Quote from: DeadRa7 on July 01, 2012, 11:50 pm

Quote from: inspiredflight on July 01, 2012, 11:41 pm

I don't order from Netherlands because of my only transaction from AAKOVEN.
I waited a full month and nothing arrived. I notified him and he offered a reship. I waited 3 more weeks and still nothing. I had faith that it would arrive but I was only disappointed. He offered a 25% refund. Never again.

Same here, minus the 25%...how'd you pull that off after the reship?  Would have been nice to have something back...arg, if this thread was only made before I placed my order this would have never happened...oh well, you live you learn-I hope that he's been monitoring this thread and taking the criticism seriously so he can hopefully improve the way he conducts business here.

He said he offered me the refund because I stayed polite throughout the whole thing. But yea I wish I would have had a source like this thread as well to have made a better decision.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 12:02 am

Quote from: element12 on April 27, 2012, 02:45 am

Hey, I just wanted to share my recent experience with AAkoven and prevent the same from happening to others.

I knew AAkoven was a top vendor (98 rating) so I figured ordering speed from him would be pretty safe, but I ordered almost 2 months ago and have nothing to show for it.  Perhaps the problem does not lie with him, as most people are satisfied with his stuff, but rather with the reshipper.  His impossible-to-understand messages did not help his case, though.
My full conversation transcript will be included in the next post.

First off, I was a little worried when I noticed (after I ordered) that his listing said "i ship not usa," so I messaged him about canceling the order but he said he had already shipped it.

After waiting patiently for 20 days, nothing had arrived so I asked for a reship.  He offered 50%, which is less than most vendors but fair enough.  While waiting for the reship I did a little research and found out that many people had qualms about his packaging:

"i couldn't believe it, that the customs didn't recognize what was inside... you could smell the reek of the phet from one meter distance through the packaging"
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=4750.285

"the package was basically pills wrapped in newspaper and then packaged, no vacuum pack, nothing."
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=19561.0

"I've got a friend who was fucked in USA cause of aakovens packaging... knock and talk and shit for a couple pills...."
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=19561.msg200169#msg200169

22 days after reshipping, I still have nothing.  Obviously I was a little irked.  I've had dozens of packages arrive from Europe (coherence, blaatzor, amsterdope, juergen, etc) on the first time.  No way 2 shipments get intercepted for no reason--I'm guessing it was the packaging issues mentioned.

I brought this up to AA and asked for a refund (not full refund, obviously) but he sent back messages that made no sense and ultimately refused to refund.

So far, from my point of view this was a terrible buyer's experience.  I paid in full, ended up with nothing, and had to deal with nonsensical messages and cryptic customer service.

Just wanted to warn people.  If you're in the UK this most likely does not apply but you will still have to wade through his broken English.

I'll update if either of the packages end up coming through.

I have had similar problems. 1. The order took forever and her told me it had to be routed through another country (for whatever reason) 2. The packaging was horrible and only consisted of newspaper and some other plastic wrap 3. Before I even opened the box I saw a liquid soaking through. Yes, the package was made so poorly that the product was leaking out for anyone to see or smell including dogs.

I am royally pissed.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 01:04 am

Quote

I have had similar problems. 1. The order took forever and her told me it had to be routed through another country (for whatever reason) 2. The packaging was horrible and only consisted of newspaper and some other plastic wrap 3. Before I even opened the box I saw a liquid soaking through. Yes, the package was made so poorly that the product was leaking out for anyone to see or smell including dogs.

I am royally pissed.

How long ago was this?  What did you order?  That's fucking unreal.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 01:25 am

happened less than a month ago. I couldent believe it either. Oh, and I forgot to mention the order was short too was supposed to be 5 grams, was only 3.5. I told him it was short and he said he would send me the rest. I haven't seen that either. I don't know how someone with such a lack of professionalism can have such a good rating on SR. Obviously I'm not the only one.

DOC

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 01:33 am

Quote from: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 01:25 am

I don't know how someone with such a lack of professionalism can have such a good rating on SR. Obviously I'm not the only one.

DOC

http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=31754b25714fe0ab222254abdbf35a37.jpg
^This is why

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: brasky on July 02, 2012, 01:52 am

My only experience with AAkoven was that not great. He listed his ketamine as a+ pure shit. It wasnt. It was cut to shit with who knows what. I give him credit he did acknowledge the fact that he does not himself use K and was not aware of the actual quality and his listings went down after that. He offered me a discount of a future order if I planned on it. Not saying the guy is bad or anything but it was the worst ketamine I have had and I have sampled multiple sellers here.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 03:21 am

Quote from: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 01:33 am

Quote from: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 01:25 am

I don't know how someone with such a lack of professionalism can have such a good rating on SR. Obviously I'm not the only one.

DOC

http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=31754b25714fe0ab222254abdbf35a37.jpg
^This is why

Are you saying the reviews are fakes? How does he pull that off?

DOC

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 07:15 am

Quote from: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 03:21 am

Quote from: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 01:33 am

Quote from: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 01:25 am

I don't know how someone with such a lack of professionalism can have such a good rating on SR. Obviously I'm not the only one.

DOC

http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=31754b25714fe0ab222254abdbf35a37.jpg
^This is why

Are you saying the reviews are fakes? How does he pull that off?

DOC

No, damn near everyone finalized early per his request-one comment, which was given a 5/5 stated that he didn't receive product but given a 50% refund and that was the agreement or some bullshit.  Who knows how many of those people are actually going to come back and update the feedback even if they don't receive-look back a few months and there's a significant amount of "FE will update"...maybe they're still anxiously awaiting the mailman everyday (I gotta be honest, I didn't give up hope until I moved two months after I placed the order, was hoping for the best)

Even though this happened to me in March and I'm pretty much over it, I still stay up on this because I'm curious about whats gonna happen with this guy.  There's just too many red flags, and I feel like he may even be jeopardizing people's safety with such poor packaging.   I just don't consider him an asset to this community-too sloppy and careless with the possibility of making a few extra btc a week by giving random people 50% refunds and hoping they don't update their feedback...we'll never know I guess but I guess whatever he's doing is working so why stop when people order anyways.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: fuckinblueboy on July 06, 2012, 07:21 am

Quote from: fuckinblueboy on June 20, 2012, 05:16 pm

Just received pills from aakoven in Europe, no problem. Shipment was very fast and packaging was very good. Didn't try the product yet.

Some more info : I didn't FE because of what I read in this thread. It was only 25 pills, but AAkoven sent the package without asking for FE, so my advice if you order from him is try to not FE.
It seems like he's getting mixed reports for other stuff, so research reports for the stuff you're ordering ! The packaging was great too, so I would definitely order more pills from him, but not other stuff  ??? Maybe he has other people shipping products for him, that would explain why some packaging is good and some is bad.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: mdmazing on July 06, 2012, 07:21 pm

I'm from the East U.S and I have ordered from AAkoven at least 5 times. I have received all of my orders from him except for one. The reason I'm certain I didn't get it is because I sent it to someone's house and addressed it with a name that didn't live there. Ever since I have been putting the real address with the owners name I have had no problems. The first 3 packages I received were perfectly packed and he used an ironed bag. Two of them were directly from the NL as well. The last one I received was re-shipped from the UK to make it less suspicious. I noticed though when I received it the packaging was sub-par. It was only in a baggy with newspaper in the letter. I'm glad I got it but if I had known it was sent like that I would have been nervous. I have a feeling that it might not be AAkoven's fault as much as the person re-shipping it. I have since talked to him and he said that he does not re-ship anymore, hopefully for that reason but I do not know. If you have any similar stories please share with the forum so we can get a better idea on what is going on!

Thanks guys!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: reacting on July 11, 2012, 06:12 pm

Quote from: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 03:21 am

Quote from: DeadRa7 on July 02, 2012, 01:33 am

Quote from: DrWhite on July 02, 2012, 01:25 am

I don't know how someone with such a lack of professionalism can have such a good rating on SR. Obviously I'm not the only one.

DOC

http://xfq5l5p4g3eyrct7.onion/view.php?image=31754b25714fe0ab222254abdbf35a37.jpg
^This is why

Are you saying the reviews are fakes? How does he pull that off?

DOC

I have a friend who is a buyer like myself and because of his experiences with AA I have NEVER dealt with him.
My friend has ordered big amounts numerous times and only 50% (if that) of his orders have come through and only after a re-ship...admittedly the buyer is dealing out of escrow (which i think is dodgy anyway) so his own fault really.

*Fake reviews would be easy...vendor opens up as many accounts as he/she wishes as "buyers"
Orders as many times as he wants, juggling btc and transferring to different wallet #'s as needed...
and "leaves feedback here"

Not hard to have fake reviews on their profiles at all...It is probably necessary for most NEW vendors to make a few fake transactions and leave feedbacks in order to get real orders from us...
I go through feedback before ordering from a new vendor.

Anyway, as i said: I won't order from AA....hopefully this post stops AA from ripping off a few more euros from the rest of us, peace :)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: mdmazing on July 12, 2012, 08:35 pm

I dunno man, I feel that if people were getting screwed over so bad there would be a lot more negative ratings. Granted he can make a bunch of fake reviews for himself but it would take him a long time just to do that and out weight all of the bad reviews. He also doesn't speak the best of English so I feel that the fake reviews would be really obvious. If he really wanted to screw people over he would just let all of his orders stack up and receive all of his payments without escrow and bail on everyone. After that he could just just make a new name and start selling under that. But he doesn't do that and hopefully he never does.

AAkoven has never done me wrong. <3

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: reacting on July 13, 2012, 01:19 pm

I haven't looked at his profile to see how much business he has on the road officially, but I'd say he would be doing alot of business privately. I read a few of my friend's emails from AA....his english is good sometimes and bad other times. I read one particular email that confesses they rip people...not small deals (eg.50 pills)-Just the big ones....
Fuck's sake, like that would make any buyer feel reassured they hadn't been ripped! This is FACT. I have no need to right bullshit on here. Like I've said earlier, tryin to minimise his profits for nothing scheme cos its a dog act what he has done.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: NotThatGuy on July 26, 2012, 07:29 am

Recent transactions with Aakoven: I ordered 10 5mg oxys, 2g of speed paste, and 10g of MDMA. The oxys and speed came but the MDMA didn't. This fits the behavior you just described of letting the small deals go and scamming on the big ones. I'm not saying that that's the case, I'm just stating the facts with along with my commentary. Aakoven did give a 50% refund for the MD but I still wouldn't do business with him again, for the sole reason that they don't have "US Buyers Beware" threads of other vendors who have the same products and are also based in the Netherlands. There, you've been warned. My suggestion would be to just use SuperTrips. He has basically the same products, provides tracking, and offers a 100% refund or reship if the product doesn't show so why risk it with Aakoven?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: omghormel on July 26, 2012, 07:33 am

Pretty sure he scammed me 50 defqons. On the 18th day of no show I let him know and he instantly 'reshipped' them without any questions or even ask for my address again.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: funyoungguy on July 26, 2012, 04:09 pm

Quote from: White Light on May 09, 2012, 09:11 am

I remember a US buyer who was complaining he was scammed by Dr Amsterdam because he never received 2 packages of 10g MDMA. A few months later he started a thread explaining he has been busted.

Any chance you can find this thread and link to it? VERY interested to read this and can't find it by searching :)

I had a 5 gram MDMA package from AA delivered to the South East US in  5 business days flat. Communication was good, and a lot of care seemed to go into the packaging.  I ordered another  10 grams on July 9th and am still waiting. Communication so far has been good, but this thread is making me very nervous!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Holly on July 26, 2012, 04:34 pm

Quote from: NotThatGuy on July 26, 2012, 07:29 am

Recent transactions with Aakoven: I ordered 10 5mg oxys, 2g of speed paste, and 10g of MDMA. The oxys and speed came but the MDMA didn't. This fits the behavior you just described of letting the small deals go and scamming on the big ones. I'm not saying that that's the case, I'm just stating the facts with along with my commentary. Aakoven did give a 50% refund for the MD but I still wouldn't do business with him again, for the sole reason that they don't have "US Buyers Beware" threads of other vendors who have the same products and are also based in the Netherlands. There, you've been warned. My suggestion would be to just use SuperTrips. He has basically the same products, provides tracking, and offers a 100% refund or reship if the product doesn't show so why risk it with Aakoven?

10g of mdma being big are you fucking kidding me  :o 2/3 transacts from a flagged country seems pretty fuckin normal to me....  also Supertrips has had his own interceptions too as with all NL vendors/

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: arcanine on July 26, 2012, 09:39 pm

Well I can't say that I'm glad I started reading this post...

I recognize that I am a new buyer/poster, I have not had much reason for posting until this but have spent several hours browsing the forums.

So I made my first order on the 7th, almost 3 weeks ago from one of the oldest and most "trusted" vendors on SR for MDMA, Aakoven. I ordered 1 gram, finalized early per his request, and waited anxiously by my mailbox in western US. I remember before ordering that I checked to see that there was at least some form of refund policy and it stated that 50% refund is the most given, which is understandable for me I have no problem splitting the loss in case of one. I understand the NL is a high profile country for the post and shit gets picked up from there more often than most.

After the package had not arrived by this Monday, I decided to let the vendor know and voice my concern, as politely as possible, that it might never come. He advised me if it doesn't come in by Friday the 26th it probably won't. In the unfortunate circumstance that my package didn't show up I asked what kind of recourse he could offer me, i.e some sort of refund or resend. He quickly instructed me "check my profile". I go to look and now it appears that his refund policy has changed and will offer no sort of refund to US customers. I am now waiting a reply to my request of a 50% refund.

I am still hopeful that the product will arrive and I make no judgement concerning the vendor Aakoven yet. However, should it not arrive and the vendor stops communication and doesn't offer any kind of refund, I can't help but feel like a scammed first time buyer. Would it be offensive to suggest that some particularly reputable vendors take advantage of first time buyers by directing them to finalize early? I have another order in transit for LSD from new seller Jannis that I did not have to finalize for and am looking forward to that coming in.

Does anyone particularly in the U.S. have any successful experiences with Aakoven as a vendor? I understand how much work being a large scale vendor on the Road can be, but this amount of undelivered orders can't be normal is it?

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: mdmazing on July 27, 2012, 06:30 pm

I hate to do this but, after having AAkoven's back for so long it seems as if my luck with him has finally ran out. It has been 15 business days today since I placed my order for MDMA and I haven't received anything yet. I'm hoping maybe it's a little bit delayed but after all this negative feedback it is making me nervous, he seems to have also removed all his listings for MDMA =( I will keep the forums updated.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: darthvaderstar on July 27, 2012, 06:47 pm

Quote from: mdmazing on July 27, 2012, 06:30 pm

I hate to do this but, after having AAkoven's back for so long it seems as if my luck with him has finally ran out. It has been 15 business days today since I placed my order for MDMA and I haven't received anything yet. I'm hoping maybe it's a little bit delayed but after all this negative feedback it is making me nervous, he seems to have also removed all his listings for MDMA =( I will keep the forums updated.

his listings are still up

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: mdmazing on July 27, 2012, 06:57 pm

Quote

his listings are still up

some of his listings are up yes, but specifically his crystal MDMA listings aren't.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Kappacino on July 27, 2012, 07:04 pm

Quote from: reacting on July 13, 2012, 01:19 pm

I haven't looked at his profile to see how much business he has on the road officially, but I'd say he would be doing alot of business privately. I read a few of my friend's emails from AA....his english is good sometimes and bad other times. I read one particular email that confesses they rip people...not small deals (eg.50 pills)-Just the big ones....
Fuck's sake, like that would make any buyer feel reassured they hadn't been ripped! This is FACT. I have no need to right bullshit on here. Like I've said earlier, tryin to minimise his profits for nothing scheme cos its a dog act what he has done.

Got any screens of those emails?

I doubt even a piece of shit like Aakoven would be dumb enough to brazenly make such a claim. It could cost him his account. Even a shit munch like him isn't that much of a moron

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: mdmazing on July 27, 2012, 07:09 pm

^ I'd like to see those e-mails too  :-\

Title: Afraid I've been scammed by aakoven

Post by: kittyxlove on August 09, 2012, 06:47 pm

I ordered from aakoven in haste before leaving my house to go on a trip.  I wanted my package of K to be on my doorstep ASAP.  I have learned my lesson to never ever buy from a seller before reading  the forums!!!  I had such a wonderful first time experience with Ivory that I just pulled the trigger.   Well, I feel like a dumb ass now.   I had a bad feeling about this guy aakoven just because of the price being so low and I stupidly FE.  It's been only a week so there is a small glimmer of hope that my package will still arrive to the USA, but after reading the posts I am going to prepare myself for the worst.

Now after searching for "aakoven" on here, I will search for what will happen to me if A.) My package has been seized and B.)  What course of action I should take against scammers.  Obviously will report back again in a week.  But right now I'm pretty sad and a bit scared.   Will never order blind again!  Stupid me.  :-(

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: arcanine on August 09, 2012, 07:12 pm

Happened to me too. I guess every US first timer should go through Aakoven so they know what its like to be scammed.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: trollsquad on August 09, 2012, 07:17 pm

Quote from: arcanine on August 09, 2012, 07:12 pm

Happened to me too. I guess every US first timer should go through Aakoven so they know what its like to be scammed.

Meh i prefer tony76

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: funyoungguy on August 10, 2012, 12:30 pm

My second order never arrived. I was given a 75% refund and my first came fast and with no problem so I don't think he is selectively. I think he needs to offer a tracked option for the US and I would order again.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Theaides on August 11, 2012, 02:32 am

I was informed my order was sent out about 11 days ago.  No sign of it yet, though some people have reported 10-13 days on some US orders from the NL.  Will update on Monday if it still does not arrive.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: sinister4ng3l on August 17, 2012, 12:26 am

Quote from: Theaides on August 11, 2012, 02:32 am

I was informed my order was sent out about 11 days ago.  No sign of it yet, though some people have reported 10-13 days on some US orders from the NL.  Will update on Monday if it still does not arrive.

When I ordered from AA, my order of 100 pills didn't even come in til a little over a month (I live on the West Coast by the way).

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Theaides on August 17, 2012, 12:32 am

We're talking a 10 strip of LSD, a normal letter.

Still waiting, ~16 days.  I'll continue to be patient but I don't think I want to order from NL again after this.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DeadRa7 on August 17, 2012, 02:35 am

Quote from: Theaides on August 17, 2012, 12:32 am

We're talking a 10 strip of LSD, a normal letter.

Still waiting, ~16 days.  I'll continue to be patient but I don't think I want to order from NL again after this.

I hate this vendor, I really do.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Theaides on August 20, 2012, 07:22 pm

Okay, pretty sure I've been scammed by this guy.  Now on day 22 with no show, isn't answering PMs.  Stay away from this guy.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Ergot on August 20, 2012, 08:34 pm

I bought 5 Alice Tabs, delivered quickly, I live in the U.E., the letter is not discrete !

But mostly it is not lsd !!! , >:(

I left 4  in the fridge and I'll throw everything in the trash. :-X :o

The test was not nice! probably Rc or other crap.

Avoid !  ;)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: Ordinary Guy on August 20, 2012, 09:09 pm

I remember looking on his page a while back, he said he didnt want to deal with US orders. After i saw that, i didnt really care about his success rate to the states, i just let it be. xO

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: bxs2nnwtfaid on August 20, 2012, 10:47 pm

recently made my first order off SR from AA.. tried to search for information on him beforehand but unfortunately the search option on this forum is not very efficient. His feedback seemed good and since he has been around for a long time i figured it was a pretty safe bet. It has only been a week but i have no received, based on reading all these comments would you suggest that i try to resolve when i am able to in 5 days? I also found it strange that, as of the day after my order, he no longer has any listings in the Ecstasy section on SR.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: RippedOff! on September 11, 2012, 09:16 am

I am a new buyer and I orders 200 pills from AAKOVEN about 6 weeks ago. The order totaled $1200.00. I know that you should not FE and I did not want to! I requested to have my auto-finalize date extended through the resolution center because I hadn't received anything yet and he messaged me asking me to finalize because I am a new buyer. I saw his rating was pretty high and I trusted that he had sent them so STUPIDLY I finalized! This was the biggest mistake I have made in a long time.

I borrowed the $1200.00 from someone so that I could get this venture going so I could start making money off importing these pills. After 6 weeks I have received NOTHING! He told me that he would send in two separate envelopes and neither have arrived. I also orders 1g cocaine and 10 LSD blotters on the same day that I orders the pills and both of those arrived after 3 weeks. They were both waiting in my post box together. I do not believe that both packages were stolen because that is just unfuckingbelievable! What are the chances that both packages from the same vendor get stolen and everything makes it through fine? Absolute bullfuckingshit!!!!

I'm now sitting with a $1200.00 debt and I know that he fucked me over on this order! But what I don't understand is why he would rip off someone who is making such a big order? Clearly I was going to be a good customer but now that he butt-fucked me I will most definitely not be doing business with him again and I recommend that no else should either! If you do - STAY IN ESCROW!!!!

Through my communication with him, he didn't even know where the fuck I was from, after telling him TWICE before he still got it wrong, TWICE! Thought I was from two different countries. I know he never sent them, just pocketed my cash! He also told me that he will send me 10 pills as a tester to see if they make it - I guarantee you they will get "stolen" again! He never fucking sent these ones either! Bet your fucking ass-off!!! Besides, like 10 will make up for the $1200.00 loss I've now got!

FUCK AAKOVEN! I will be much better off buying from someone else like SKYY in future! If this was real-world I'd cut his fucking nuts off for this amount of money!!!

Anyway, I've accepted after 6 weeks of anxiously waiting that they will not be coming so now I'm just out to warn everyone about this fuck-tard!!!!

My order of $1200.00 should also impact his rating greatly, pitty it was a custom listing so no one will be able to see my review!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: kittyxlove on September 15, 2012, 01:30 am

The prick only got about $200 from me.  I'm so sorry about your losses!  Please contact SR and get the fucktard out of here!!  It's been over a month and I have no package and no refund.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: kittyxlove on September 15, 2012, 09:26 pm

Holy fuck!  I just realized you can go back after you've FE'd and edit your review!  Go to Account -- Account Links (right hand side) -- View feedback -- Edit!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: topstopplop on September 16, 2012, 01:10 am

I hear yah guys same thing happened to me when i was new, saw aakoven's cheap prices and outlandish claims about his narcotics then took it at face value, blindly trusted him and FE. 3 seperate packages were meant to have been sent, 2 G Speed (x2) and 5G Speed (x1).

I first made the order of the 5G and 2G at the time, i was hoping to make some fast cash for a developing opiate problem =/. Neither showed up and looking back i don't know why i did it (live and learn i guess) Anyway when i told him and pretty much was like What Now? He told me he would resend The 2G package then asked for my address, about 3 months (i reckon it was more like 1-2 months) later i received a love letter saying 2G of unidentified powder had been seized.

Now first, you think aussie customs would know wtf speed looks like, especially if it was as good as this guy is claiming. I've seen other love letters and they list what they believe the product to be,  the guys who caught mine obviously had no fucking idea what it was. After research i learnt that its basically caffiene with little to no speed in it anyway, now i understand exaggeration and how its used in marketing. But Caffeine? comon that's false advertising, your setting yourself up for a beating. Hell where i live people get stabbed with dirty fits for a hit, if he tried that in person he'd be fucking dead (i wouldn't do such a thing for speed, but these crazy crackheads...). People shoot this shit up you fucking psycho! I admit it's stupid to shoot up, but i think it's arrogant to give them dangerous drugs and expect them to conform to you ROA, its there fucking choice and if your speed is too shit to IV then fucking put it in the listing.

But ofcourse the real mystery is why would customs only pick up one of three packages? Aussie customs ain't what its cracked up to be, i guess we just have a shit load of sniffer dogs (our countries like a huge fucking backyard in some ways). Furthermore if they picked up 3 packages with the same name i think that would have been in the letter, especially if they had been sent earlier =/.

Now i don't really care anymore and i'm thankful that it happened early and in hindsight i only trusted him because speed is fucking expensive where i live (250 for anything remotely okay), and i was expecting medium purity around 50-60%, so the good deal made me jump like every desperate junkie does when they see money. And i saw fat fucking dolla bills i can tell you. Oh and newbies, the first 5 things i ordered never came. Relax, always use the forums and if shit goes south. Well never invest what you can't afford, i know sucks but better to learn sooner than later. Yeh i spent about $250 before i learned my lesson, but that was partly fucking Noriega disappearing act, managed to order just before people realized he'd fucked off and i had already FE....

I learned eventually, doesn't matter which country you go to... Most of the time Its the criminals selling drugs or its the fuckwit with a habit and It's very rarely someone who has a business ethic. But we are lucky enough to have some good uns here on SR, i won't mention any for fear that putting them in this thread will make people think that I'm advertising for them, maybe i am, but thats how a lot of good business is run you have to remember; "word of mouth". If people like what your doing they'll shout it from the rooftops.

Anyway AA i'll leave the 5 i gave you, no point taking it back now and its no longer listed seeing as all my successful orders seem to have pushed it off screen, whats one opinion in a sea of FE anyway? I dunno if you did scam me but it is quite suspicious, but then again who knows. Either way your getting plenty of business and i don't buy from you. Plus simple solution if your listening, don't sell to Australian or US customers, you are obviously too shit to package things properly for us.

Yeh i know flagged country, thats a fucking excuse and a half. Also your the only Netherlands vendor to be this notorious, i guess that means your also the shittest. I'm being way to offensive for my own good hear but ripping off a nice near-junkie(no offense, playful term where I'm from) like that $1200? If you can't confirm 100% on bulk then don't do bulk, this ain't a game, this is peoples lives your screwing up. For money talk about petty mate.

Oh and i recommend ignoring me AAkoVen, i'm withdrawing like nothing else right now. I'm sure to within Europe people appreciate your service and will for months coming, just don't bother with AUS and US anymore please or at least AUS double Please. We only Winge and bitch anyway, well thats what your opinion of us seems to be anyway.

Although I've gotten ripped off with street drugs plenty of times and in those situations i was not offered a 50% refund for the bunk shit i received.

P.S. Ofcourse he has good MDMA guys, his in the fucking Netherlands, he would have to have crippling brain damage to get burnt buying mandy over there. Or be cutting it himself, but i doubt that. I think the speed is probably bunk like the K is. I wouldn't get anything but MDMA off him personally and i hate the shit so extra reasons to not bother!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: topstopplop on September 16, 2012, 01:20 am

okay perhaps 100% is a little high, but most good vendors state that bulk has a 95% chance of getting through.So 19 in 20 make it. (its not statistically sound for multiple people to lose both ship and reship unless your not trying to hard enough with the packaging. Hell i reckon i could get something illegal and medium size to states with no drama's, once i work out a method i don't have to change anything till one gets caught.  Personally i think for the good vendors its more like 99% for almost any country and 1% that it gets caught and 0.0000001% that the postman steals it. Its really not that hard either, if you don't have any ideas order from a vendor with good postage. Like shit why do you fail fo hard.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: topstopplop on September 16, 2012, 01:33 am

Quote from: topstopplop on September 16, 2012, 01:10 am

Yeh i know flagged country, thats a fucking excuse and a half. Also your the only Netherlands vendor to be this notorious, i guess that means your also the shittest. I'm being way to offensive for my own good hear but ripping off a nice near-junkie(no offense, playful term where I'm from) like that $1200? If you can't confirm 100% on bulk then don't do bulk, this ain't a game, this is peoples lives your screwing up. For money talk about petty mate.

Sorry did not mean to say that you ripped her off, impossible to prove and ridiculous to try.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: kittyxlove on September 18, 2012, 02:46 am

Just got a message from SR.  They're on it!  So long Aakoven!!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: DoobeeZ on September 18, 2012, 07:40 am

So um.. I'm not sure what you guys are doing wrong but I highly doubt AA is a scammer. I have sent him well over 5k (FE, too) and received everything perfectly. Printed labels, vac-seal etc. Some of his products might not be the best, but if you just do your research on the forums its fine

I've also sent one of his friends high five-figure amounts and received everything fine, like clockwork..

Also I have reagent tested the Alice in Wonderlands and Hoffmanns from AAkoven and they came up positive on an Ehrlich test. They might not be the strongest, but its definitely L, and constantly available

I'm not saying that anyone who claims they didn't receive their package from him are lying. I just think that when you're ordering controlled substances in the mail from an extremely high-risk country you shouldn't immediately scream "SCAMMER SCAMMER" when it doesn't arrive. Believe it or not, smuggling drugs is illegal...

Also, to that 'topstopplop' guy, you had 3 non-arrivals from the same vendor, and you sent him $1200!?!?!? DAMN, junkies get stupider every fucking day

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: müslix on September 18, 2012, 09:45 am

If he still seals everything with this black, strong metal(?) foil, it will probably light up like a christmas tree when x-rayed. I was told US-customs do a lot of x-raying. So a lot of US buyers not receiving could be because of stupidity rather then intentional scam, not that far-fetched imho. But since he his accused a lot of doing that, it wouldn't surprise me if he was like "since everyone's already saying it, I can actually do it as well" (with lots of special characters added).

Quote from: topstopplop on September 16, 2012, 01:10 am

I've seen other love letters and they list what they believe the product to be,  the guys who caught mine obviously had no fucking idea what it was. After research i learnt that its basically caffiene with little to no speed in it anyway, now i understand exaggeration and how its used in marketing. But Caffeine? comon that's false advertising,

It was labtested by a forum user here, results where 5% speed, 31% cafeine, Fenylaceton and some other stuff.
Caffeine is the most popular adulterant for speed in europe, over 80% of analyzed samples contain caffeine. The actual rip off is the 5% of amphetamine. It's actually a pretty silly thing to do, since most speed users won't notice such small amounts anyway. He could just leave it out as well. My guess is, that it's added to fool a Marquis test.

Phenylacetone (aka BMK/P2P) is a precursor to amphetamine, don't think anyone would add it on purpose. Effects are not studied, anecdotal reports suggest it acts as some sort of stimulant, but no euphoria whatsoever. There's warnings about possible health risks. It's probably left from shitty manufacture, which matches aakoven's ideology - selling only the cheapest stuff that makes the most profit. He really doesn't care about quality. Said so himself.

It really depends how you define scam, promising 50-60% amphetamine and delivering 5% can be called scam imho. Opinions may vary though. I don't really care anymore, way too long ago, what struck me as the most arrogant was him not even replying when I mentioned it. One could argue that everyone over-advertizes their speed, which is (a) not true and (b) still no valid reason to do it (most recent case: MrFireUK advertising 92% speed incl. report from labtest, sending out 40% speed).

I don't really give a shit anymore, everyone can do a research on the forum and will find all of the above. Still no one does it. Sorry to say, but it's partly your own fault.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: müslix on September 18, 2012, 09:57 am

Quote from: DoobeeZ on September 18, 2012, 07:40 am

Also I have reagent tested the Alice in Wonderlands and Hoffmanns from AAkoven and they came up positive on an Ehrlich test. They might not be the strongest, but its definitely L, and constantly available

How you guys do FE on orders of >1k and don't even research the reviews of the vendor is totally beyond me. It's an invitation to being ripped off.

Alice was very inconsistent, was mentioned pretty often, so neither the guys claiming it's good nor the guys saying it has no LSD were necessarily lying. Hofmann tabs are just poor quality combined with very low dosage (51ug iirc). If you consider this a rip off or not is up to your interpretation.

Screwing up an lsd letter is pretty hard though. If anyone can get that done it's probably him.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: RippedOff! on September 18, 2012, 10:32 am

So AAKOVEN saw my posts in the forum and replied to me. I suspect that he knew that he was going to scam from the very first message he sent me and asked me to do a direct deal with him so he doesn;t loose 3% which I see is not allowed here on SR so I will once again be contacting the SR admin about this.

Here is my communication between him and I, the bottom is the first message I sent him and top is most recent:

Me: And on a side note, I'm the only ecstasy dealer in my town, I could have guaranteed to buy at least 200 a week from you (and im expanding so it would be a lot more in the next month or two), so really, you only fucked yourself over, by making sure I never buy from your sorry ass again! I actually haven't lost out, I worked a deal with another dealer here on the road for 50 pills and I'll start from there, again, like I have done before! Turns out they're a lot cheaper than you as well! $3.80 each! So now im scoring more profit in the end, thanks!

CUNT

Me: Oh, and by the way, I guarantee that those other 10 aren't coming either. Once again you didn't send them! This will be your cover-up, because these once will get "stolen" again. Funny though, I bought another two products same time as yours, also from NL, both of them arrived quite fine, so don't fucking bullshit me about this, I know you never fucking sent them!

Yes, rather stop talking you dishonest little fuck-face!

Me: Yeah, and considering that I am the only E dealer in town, I would know if anyone else had them!

aakoven(91): lol, u show your true colors .

go for it , many sad that before ..

U are a dumb cunt..Fact have a great weekend...looser.

@You and I both know very well \ no know shit ..go to your post office and ask who stole your shit , some one must selling blue deq...
its not that hard to find the prick..or ,mebe u are to stupid

And now..an done talking...stupid fuck..

Me: You're the asshole here! Not me! Did I rip anyone off? NO! YOU DID! You and I both know very well that you never sent me those parcels. Like I said, the chances of both from you happen to get "stolen". I'm not a fucking retard! I see many posts on the forums about you selective scamming people so I'm not the only one! And clearly your rating is starting to show it too! Enjoy my 1 you fucking prick! You won't be able to do this for much longer! I'm going to do anything and everything I can to make sure you can't do this to anyone else! If it means sending a PM to each and every person Silk Road I'll do that - thats for fucking me over, cunt!

aakoven(91): Wow, u are a real asshole ...wtf, RAT ...if u did read my terms, ?

i re send, as a test and go from there, to help u ,back on the horse..like i always do..
and i even give u money back..[ and u have a right on it as u can red in my profile ]

And now...i stab me in the back on the forum...Now i know what a person u are, A rat..
and think about it , who lend money , to buy dope. online very risky bizz.
wen it will be send to Afr ...and it get stolen, yes...not customs....is that my fouled?

i dont think so...............pfff well, u are broke and u deserve it .

Asshole...

aakoven(91): wait on the pills to come plz..

Me: Hi, could you at least do a 50% refund so I can at least regain some of my loss. Please, at least this will get me in the clear. I will really appreciate it and will let everyone know that you help me out immensely! Thanks in advance AA!

aakoven(91): i will give u...25 % back..as i also sen u some pills again.!!

am sorry m8...

Me: Listen mate, could I just get a refund. I don't want to risk loosing more than I already have. I just want my money back so I'm not in shit with the diamond dealers that I borrowed the cash from. I know it's not in your terms and conditions but you make a lot of cash i'm sure so please could you help me out on this buddy! Please! I'm in so much shit here you don't even understand. The average salary here is $200 just to show you how much $1200.00 really is here, that's 6 months of my salary and I've just gotten off the phone with these guys and they're not happy with me. I thought everything would work out and now it hasn't so I'm really fucked here unless you can help me. Please AA! I'm begging you!!!

aakoven(91): let me know wen they arrive

Me: I will let you know if they arrive anytime from now but it's not looking good, it's taken far too long for me to even keep some hope of them arriving...

Me: Thats the thing, I don't believe that anyone has stolen them. Everything else came through fine except those two packages which were sent on different days so it doesn't make sense that both packages got stolen from you?

aakoven(91): take it step by step...if u tell me Who stole them...?

i can send again, but on your end , someone steal your pills buddy

Me: Okay so if I get the test will you send me more? At least if I can get 100 then I can make enough money to pay the guy back that I borrowed from and I will be bale to buy another 200 from you so I can keep in business, with only 10 I can make $350 so that wont be enough to place another order or to pay the guy back... Please help me on this one mate!

aakoven(91): i have send a test..as all was Stolen.!!!
u think I want to send again..before i don,t know it arrive..
Its not customs ..who fought them m8

Me: Okay so how many will you be sending this time? I am at a huge loss here! Even if I get 10 it's not going to make up for the 1200 that i spent. I cannot loose all this money. If you can send me those 200 I will definitely be back, you may not make money from this lot but neither will I if you don't help me out which means then that I will not have more money to buy more from you in future. At least if I get these I will make some money and will buy more from you, even more than last time! Please help me out on this one. What can we do here?

aakoven(91): U ask me last time 2x100 so i did......

lets try this.......

AA

Me: No I am the one from *****. Did you send two packages each with 100 to *****? Maybe someone is stealing but like I said everything else has made it through fine so far. My address is:

*********
*********
*********
*********

Thank you mate!

aakoven(91): am u are the guy from Sud A..wow nothing arrive..that means for me some must steal it.

its was send in a dubble folded strong flop, Glued closed...so most easy to open u have to rip it..

So someone there is stealing...

let me send u a small flop. i put 10 in ok...

let see ...give me the add?

Me: Then I am lost as to why they haven't arrived? For both packages not to arrive when everything else has arrived fine. I borrowed cash because I am bringing them in for someone who is going to re-sell them and I am making some money from it too but I didn't have cash to get started so I borrowed money from an illegal diamond dealer to get me started.

Is there anything we can do here to sort something out because I'm in big shit if I don't get anything! Please! I will be a returning customer, this I promise you! I have heard that these defqons are the best and your price is the best! What can we do my brother?

aakoven(91): I always send wen the order come in..
and i trust MY customers Fe...

wow U borw $$ for to buy dope...that is not a smart move m8

Me: Would you have only sent them out when I finalized? Or did you send out when I placed the order? It has been well over a month and no sign of anything... I'm just trying to keep my hopes up here because im going to be in a lot of shit if they don't arrive. I borrowed this money from someone and they are now starting to ask questions about when they'll get their cash back so I'm just trying to look for a time frame. I placed the order over a month ago but only finalized 18 days ago, could you have perhaps sent it out then?

My order was:
custom order Me:  aakoven(94) 5 of 5 Have trust in Aakoven! Will update once arrived! 18 days ago edit

Thanks!

aakoven(91): I have send , Copy paste it to the add U provided me.

Me: Hi there, after one month I still have nothing. Could you perhaps tell me what address it was that you sent to? Thanks

aakoven(91): ok sure.......

Me: Okay, I will just have to wait and see. I really do hope they make it here because I cannot loose 1200! Thanks, will update when I know more, cheers

aakoven(91): I see it,. 1 out today.!!
second in 2 days.\ 26 days read

U can read it your self here.....it was packed it double folded flops..U see feel smell nothing as there where , Iron sealed.

And we glue it extra close...so u must Rip it open, with force ,..

AA

Me: Hi, I just want to confirm when you sent me two parcels? I ordered another two products on the same day as you and they arrived last week. I haven't received anything that I ordered from you yet??? I'm starting to get a bit worried because 1200 is a lot of money here where I am and now I don't have anything for it? It's been 26 days since I ordered from you and still nothing??? Please, when did you send them? How long ago?

aakoven(91): O i will.......D

Me: Okay mate, because I am interested in doing a lot more business with you I will release the funds. I hope you will remember me in future ;-)

aakoven(91): agh u..yes...wow that long........And why i must wait so long?
that my bitc come free?

did u read terms..plz give me a break..i need to sell to buy new pills.

Me: No, I am from *******. I am the one that ordered 200 Blue Defqons. Nothing has arrived yet, I have read in the forums that it may take up to 24/25 days to arrive. I will let you know when they arrive.

aakoven(91): u are from Argentina?

the first did not arrive jet? (THIS WAS AFTER I REQUESTED THE AUTO-FINALIZE DATE TO BE EXTENDED BY 10 DAYS)

Me: Okay great stuff! Thanks!

aakoven(91): I see it,. 1 out today.!!
second in 2 days.\

Me: Okay thank you very much! I have made the purchase!

aakoven(91): i will make it now.....2x100 it is.

Me: Yes I will order ASAP. I am just waiting for the last of my bitcoins to come from mt-gox so I will have enough.

aakoven(91): i will, order asap. i can send the first out today.!!

U have the coins??

Me: Please could you send 2x100. Thank you very much!

aakoven(91): U want i send in
2x100
1x200

Me: Okay thank you very much! I look forward to getting these! I recently bought two here locally and they were amazing and that's how I ended up coming across the road. Can't wait :D

aakoven(91): its in ; Yubikeys down...> the pace.

112 bitc.

U want i send in
2x100
1x200

Me: Okay thanks a lot!

aakoven(91): ok...give me 5min ok i make add.
And tell u where

Me: It is my first time buying here so I would prefer if I can stay on Silk Road. How much is your best price for 200? I will try ask in the forums for someone to give me a loan.

aakoven(91): i can do...but it more easy and more cheap. to do this deal direct..
or i loose again 3 %..if u want to stay on sr..then i send less pills as u pay the fee.

mail me here [email-masked]

Me: Hello, I have received my money from mt-gox so I am ready to buy but I only have $1100 and I would like to buy 200 of your Red Defqons. Would you possibly be able to give me a small discount for buying this quantity? I hope you will be able to create a custom listing for me so that I can buy them :D Thank you!

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: human5 on September 24, 2012, 07:14 pm

past 3 products recieved have been bunk. my mistake as I hadn't taken the proper time to evaluate their individual quality. order 2 shipments of 10g speed, both bunk had to sniff enough to make my nose bleed in order to feel any euphoria. ordered 2 grams ketamine, was 2 grams with the bag and was TERRIBLE quality... didn't do shit whether I sniffed, swallowed, or I.M. injected. few months back ordered 10g mdma, didn't show up, got a 5g replacement shipment of ok quality but I suspect the original 10g was never sent in the first place based on the rumors going on around here about him, the manner in which he is responding and just the overall feel of the transactions we've had. below is an excerpt from a messaging convo. he is clearly trying to con me into making another purchase, but upon seeing other feedback on his page, I refuse to do so without product replacement. If he were a good vendor, a small loss like a product replacement would be considered a wise investment to keep the business coming. Needless to say, we will not be doing business any longer.

human5    sorry, you're getting outdone by other vendors bro. it was nice doing business while it lasted    6 minutes    unread
delete
aakoven(89)    thx u sir well done    5 hours    read
delete
human5    all ratings changed to 1*    6 hours    read
delete
human5    yeah, bro that shit was hella bunk. replace with quality product or we no longer do business and I change my ratings to 1*    19 hours    read
delete
human5    yeah, bro that shit was hella bunk. replace with quality product or we no longer do business    19 hours    read
delete
human5    no offense man, but if anything I will just get the k elsewhere... unless you can show me that you can provide quality... I already paid for bunk product    3 days    read
delete
aakoven(89)    mebe the packing Dep made an error..on your next order put same keta and..we fix it buddy. :+)

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: human5 on September 27, 2012, 06:10 pm

let me know if you can smell the obvious bullshit

human5    about 9 months, charlie. I'm sure there are many sheep on this road, however I am a serious buyer who is usually more precocious.
it's not only about how long someone is on the road but more so their devotion to satisfying the customer.
at this point in time, I feel I have been ripped off with lightly underweight, extremely poor quality ketamine.
I just noticed that the one time I recieved the 10g amphetamine paste (ordered twice, only one arrived) I only got 5g.
I was busy, hadn't noticed, and trusted you at the time so I didn't mention.
I previously ordered 10g of MDMA which ended up not showing up, which now I suspect is because it was never sent. Granted I did get a 50% reship.
22 hours    read
delete
aakoven(89)    how long u are here sir? on the road..people are sheep,
can u name one seller who is more long on the road?    1 day    read
delete
human5    well shit, gimme some new k then this shit is hell bunk and burns like hell!

perhaps I made a hasty judgement. I saw a few feedback posts which called you a selective scammer    1 day    read
delete
aakoven(89)    lol dont worry , its light , u dont know me, my heart is pure..
u for giving me bad feedback...it will come for u...not me.

I make a lot people happy, and some NOT.fact ./
its a part off this job.

pfffffffff its hot here.    1 day    read
delete
human5    have a good one, don't get bitch smacked by karma    2 days    read
delete
aakoven(89)    fact off life........times are changing ..NP.

u think its nice to be 1 %..seller here....work 7 days a week, 18 h a day..

am happy where i am..today am leaving ...NL..forever... hahahahahahaha.

u take care...Bro.. :+)

AA    2 days    read
delete
human5    sorry, you're getting outdone by other vendors bro. it was nice doing business while it lasted    2 days    read
delete

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers REJOICE

Post by: celestine on September 27, 2012, 09:18 pm

OK first of all I have to say something to AA, yea that's what I call him; AA.  I am sorry I know we were on th "D.L."  but I cant let these monsters go on talkin' bout you like this.  He told me he liked me and would take care of things and even ship me half of what he said he would in the first place, now I know he will cause he said he will and I trust him cause I am a desperate fat bitch who believed that he would call me in the morning and that he  sniiff sniff sniff would call me after I didnt put on a rubber and FEed all up inside and now what am i soposed todo now. oh oh OMG oh shit AAAA please pick up baby illovv........   never   FE   just a little story from the road never FE keep that Rubber on. Keep control. and wash your hands.

I LOVE this place.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: CyberDMT on October 03, 2012, 05:55 pm

He had the worst attitude i've ever been treated with here on SR. Also no refund even tho he never send me the package. I made an order for it and missed the texted where he told me I needed to FE. Later I got a PM with so much disrespect so I said I don't want the product anymore. He gave me a 5% refund and never even send the product to me.

Edit:
Note: I live in Sweden not the USA.

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: singulrarity on October 07, 2012, 06:20 am

Ordered a gram of Ketamine sent to the USA and it mysteriously never got here. Tried to extend the deadline in the resolution center, and instead got the same rudeness and 5% refund offer everyone else seems to get now.

*shrug*

Title: Re: AAkoven--US Buyers Beware

Post by: arcanine on October 25, 2012, 06:21 am

Can we seriously get SR Support to look into this piece of shit? It's obvious that he's selectively scamming if not scamming just about everyone.

SMF 2.0.5 |
SMF © 2013, Simple Machines

He interrupted her. Close at hand is a stable where two beautiful ponies are kept. They are snowy white, and are consecrated to the goddess Ku-wanon, the deity of mercy, who is the presiding genius of the temple. They are in the care of a young girl, and it is considered a pious duty to feed them. Pease and beans are for sale outside, and many devotees contribute a few cash for the benefit of the sacred animals. If the poor beasts should eat a quarter of what is offered to them, or, rather, of what is paid for, they would soon die of overfeeding. It is shrewdly suspected that the grain is sold many times over, in consequence of a collusion between the dealers and the keeper of the horses. At all events, the health of the animals is regarded, and it would never do to give them all that is presented. On their return from the garden they stopped at a place where eggs are hatched by artificial heat. They are placed over brick ovens or furnaces, where a gentle heat is kept up, and a man is constantly on watch to see that the fire neither burns too rapidly nor too slowly. A great heat would kill the vitality of the egg by baking it, while if the temperature falls below a certain point, the hatching process does not go on. When the little chicks appear, they are placed under the care of an artificial mother, which consists of a bed of soft down and feathers, with a cover three or four inches above it. This cover has strips of down hanging from it, and touching the bed below, and the chickens nestle there quite safe from outside cold. The Chinese have practised this artificial hatching and rearing for thousands of years, and relieved the hens of a great deal of the monotony of life. He would not have it in the scabbard, and when I laid it naked in his hand he kissed the hilt. Charlotte sent Gholson for Ned Ferry. Glancing from the window, I noticed that for some better convenience our scouts had left the grove, and the prisoners had been marched in and huddled close to the veranda-steps, under their heavy marching-guard of Louisianians. One of the blue-coats called up to me softly: "Dying--really?" He turned to his fellows--"Boys, Captain's dying." Assuming an air of having forgotten all about Dick��s rhyme, he went to his place in the seat behind Jeff and the instant his safety belt was snapped Jeff signaled to a farmer who had come over to investigate and satisfy himself that the airplane had legitimate business there; the farmer kicked the stones used as chocks from under the landing tires and Jeff opened up the throttle. ��Yes,�� Dick supplemented Larry��s new point. ��Another thing, Sandy, that doesn��t explain why he��d take three boys and fly a ship he could never use on water��with an amphibian right here.�� Should you leave me too, O my faithless ladie? And years of remorse and despair been your fate, That night was a purging. From thenceforward Reuben was to press on straight to his goal, with no more slackenings or diversions. "Is that you, Robin?" said a soft voice; and a female face was seen peeping half way down the stairs. HoMEl����������
ENTER NUMBET 0016www.likemei.net.cn

ghzfow.com.cn

www.e-ting.net.cn

udmcph.com.cn

mscpw.com.cn

www.qkchain.com.cn

www.mulu88.org.cn

xafsl.com.cn

www.wjflhs.com.cn

wzszyz.org.cn

插你肥穴 制服丝袜旗袍涶乱的小电影 日本兽王无码全集 朋友们开撸吧欧美图片 � 人兽性交影片 维族人黄色片 日本女孩小嫩穴摄影 三八人体图片基地 美国 女人体图片欣赏 女人洞人体艺术 强奸做爱短片小说 父媳乱来 成人乱伦小说狠狠 91自拍电影网 我的美艳岳母小说撸二哥 谁有仓井空的电影 堂成人免费视屏 最大 拾贰月重磅巨献高清私拍安徽合肥随妻5p av女优超市 tube兽人 人体少女成人艺术 丝袜淫娃女空姐 欧美熟妇刚交图 新号百度云怎么看片 李忠瑞影音先锋下载 日本女人超黄色人体 男女明星日逼图片 sss性交图片 超级玛丽兄弟电影三级片 gaoqingtoupaiyiyuannvce 擢撸少妇色图 美女逼图欣赏 他州色图 麻岛美几 jav365熟女俱乐部 夜夜摸东京热 7788dcom 亚洲成人电台 美女自己玩射了18p 亚洲美女掰鲍图 色妹妹影视下载 丝袜美女露阴门图片 小说 吃咪咪 黄色电影全草免费 爱爱医学网 干骚逼 射进肉洞 迅雷长片狠狠撸 大胆97人体 WWW_PS31_INFO 胖妹子和瘦妹子做爱有什么不同 WWW_ZARA_COM 明星18avday 乳交 乱伦 鸡巴 女儿的嫩洞逼 人妖变装图片 忧忧人体艺术导航 日韩考屄视频 粗鸡巴日骚屄 快播52淫 超诱惑骚妇奶子图片 黑巨屌插烂插扯阴道 四季美农贸城 招商银行客户端下载 情债电视剧 时空猎人电脑版下载 黑男白女种子 谁有亚洲美图网站2014 黑丝电影有哪些 苍井空的逼放大图 鼘掠牒趯? 就要搞妹妹 撸撸网王老撸 大鸡巴肏死小骚屄了 狼友迷奸自拍视频 韩国a片观看 徐莹性爱视频ed2k 女人和畜生做爱的小说 日本爽片种子 极品淫荡骚货 操逼有害不可大力日比 大香蕉很狠撸 喜欢日肥女人 小说享受泰国浴 亚洲成人10p 草小少妇屁股 李宗瑞100级 少女的阴蒂儿阴道 六九av影院 林心如两腿分开 汤芳最大胆全裸体清晰图 哪个网可看黄色图片 狂插妹妹15p 影音先锋黑人幼幼 WWW_211VV_COM av怎么看不了 给德国处女开包 夜色贵族成人小说区时间 美女爱骚逼 爱爱小说乱伦 欧美女人全裸照片 幼幼被3p 大吊黑逼 粉色骚逼 我插过的女人 日本熟女友田真希电影影音先锋播放 草裙操比 我要肏贾玲 黄色电影影音 小姐的阴道夹的我好爽 ww66avav 国语影视先锋 手机皇色视频网站大全 WWW59QRCOM 五月亚州婷婷炸天撸 张筱雨被男人插人体写真 天天色偷拍自拍 欧美图库亚洲图库 欧美人妻性爱写真 成人电影网址youjizz 美国骚逼想唉操 爸爸插错洞吉吉 操少女小说网 视频偷拍逼 成人网黄色片下载 跟老婆操奶操逼 大鸡巴狠插黑黑的骚逼 骚妇粉色木耳 四房开心播播图片 雨宫琴音qv电影 久久视频在线播放观看( 去干网1月25日 亚洲性交色视频 爱爱帝国钟和区图片 粉嫩写穴 快播伦理影院全国若妻 WWW578133COM 日韩孕妇做爱 成人在线电台 大学生妹妹穴穴 快播户外乱伦电影 亚洲女色网伦理 婶婶与侄子伦理小说 苍井空秘密搜禅观 德川重男种子 佐佐木春香 qvodk8经典强奸乱伦 女鲍鱼16p 幼嫩系列在线 内射欧美 我爱插逼淫淫网 啊淫水图 奸恋图片 我和小姨在车里 骚妇淫 欧美大鸡巴照片 漂亮女优伦理电影 性爱小说97 国产呦呦100部精选集 艳女淫妇 尻逼电影 乱伦乱摸乱交配 哪个明星的逼最好看 春色校 妻子让朋友干出尿 无需播放器在线观看西山希 色喜大胆人体 国产自拍偷拍在线播放若怒 成人孕妇性爱电影网 美女掰骚鲍www51gannet 骚逼蜜穴 家庭乱伦动漫电影 盗撮协和影视 射死你天天日百度 儿子射进来 怡春院人兽 操岳母色色网 少女嫩逼激情小说 自拍偷拍欧美美色图 家庭乱伦之巨乳妈妈 美女游戏封面相片 黑丝avi码合集 帅的男同性恋做爱的视频 本色国际 西西人体高清18岁 人体艺术舒淇艳门照 影视先先锋 亚非成人电影 究极人渣素人 weimeiqingchunccom 老头和妇女公园不雅视频 来点黄色的videombaiducom 色漫画之丝袜少妇 第一放映室伦理欧美 狗肏人网 农村tongjian 能直接在线观看图片的网站 操你妹手机电影 妇色小说 国产抽插开档黑丝女友 色狠窝 朋友的处女女友m06xscom 伦全集狠狠射 tt老婆 yingqi 制服超短裙番号迅雷下载 变态图区精品 谷露英语 日本一级毛片magnet 徐东东丝袜图片 AV区亚洲AV欧美AVwww9966acomwwwc5508comwwwshcateringcom 女性全裸近照无遮挡物 短篇剧情网站 亚洲无码女教师撸 午夜A片播 大尺度强暴性爱 色网站色网站 久草在线被监禁了的身体玩具 欧洲学妹性交视频 当着外人的面插入下载 日本美女性交24p图片 renyudongwuxingjiao capron马蓉出轨 明星合成欧美色色欧美性爱区欧美骚妇欧美成人色图欧美大奶欧美大胆人体 真人做色性动态图片 八戒街拍裙底 春药潮吹痉挛视频 思思热资源站 久草在线视频7mwwwgsobc1024cnmyiwancom 比基尼淫 花井美纱RKI252磁力链接 少妇熟女搞逼 裸体女奴小说 两性故事淫荡家庭 日韩少妇人妻系列 人妻的禁忌 riyelu国语 耽美骚货出水 17岁少女跪嫁68岁老汉 性交口交天天撸 制服丝袜1页日日摸 b3jjj 哥哥综合影院雅蠛蝶五次郎 偷拍自偷人妻自慰 西方人与狗性交片 艳照门视频华为网盘 偷拍性生活祝频 WWW_621YY_COM 欧美女生阴道艺术 sek115苞米地 影音先锋a9电影 亚洲成人动漫av 97成人在线乐子 2015Tv丶C0M 星河大帝同人小说 夜插 日本熟女性爱偷拍xjo530tumblrcom 美女b比图片 小泽玛利亚与人妖图片 成人大胆诱惑人体艺术图片 大色se片 偷拍自拍内衣12p 少女小山雀69Xx wwwfafa98om 美国发布站2K3HH wwww336bbbcom 成人做爱有哪些影院 亚洲777www69rhcom 尼姑云影视 制服丝袜图片网站 vr美腿丝袜 天天操日日艹 破处番号 偷拍影音先锋电影网 意淫强奸人妻女友 AV电影百度云 ggggbb 北原多香子全集种子 97资源www688bxcom 正在播放87午夜孕妇 无码一级黄视频 强奸乱伦 哥哥干 色狗狗综合视频网站 先锋影音成人动 日本av百人群Pav 成人3d卡通动漫在线 wwwjjzzocom 成人性全免费视频 网55eekcom 色和尚被偷拍的女主播 微信可以处理违章吗 a图片大全 欧美成人裸体网 欧美家庭伦理片资源下载mp4 妓女av网 欧美图片激情小说 1333ccc ee214magnet 最新日本av在线视频 姐姐爱爱集 狠狠爱五色天大香蕉 哈尔滨狼友 乱伦日韩欧美制服手机在线 wwwavsj 64sm 偷偷拍自拍15p 国产偷拍厕所在线视频 强奸军人母亲 日本有个是主播做爱的片子吗 亚洲第一在线黄色网站 东方东方伊甸园苍井空 蜜桃丁香 www2Csex872com 231avav 爱吧综合 黄色网站空姐被强奸下载 啊扣你的小穴 五月天激情网址 大香蕉精品520 色中色AV在线视频哥哥干 奇米成人影视色和尚、色尼姑 新西兰成人片 500av大香蕉 黄色1级片 看欧美AV剧情片的网站 性插网页 av大b视频 撸波波映院 人妖当着妈妈和爸爸 v2视频网站 千百撸综合 教室调教老师 另类小说专区在线 av在线总站 www725bb 摩擦影院5566 女人的穴是万能的 乱伦性交激情小说 亚洲1AV 高清av1080在线 大香蕉波波在线视频 淫汁Y 清纯唯美哥哥撸 sex888欧美片 依依社区影院撸lu射 995hao m3344tt 草民盒子 西西人体偷拍另类 狠狠操骚b 亚洲偷拍自拍最新网站 制服丝袜av天天 3d黄片 kk999pw下载 WWWavtb789com 男同志免费影片 琪琪电影网李宗瑞 色在线奶奶 579路com wwwyoujizzcom美女 有没有幼女的视频网站 欧美私处艳照 亚洲图片欧美图片日本av成人有声 国产小黄片网站 搜索www123456789 撸一撸美女人体 操小屄还玩老屄 淫淫色色色色 深爱萝莉 花样困绑虏待女人方法 很哈图热图 wwwcom84 wwwsyy31con 草莓社区2016新地址 国产av91自拍 鸡鸡和光屁股 夜一夜撸一撸 91luCOM 最新乱伦比较黄的肉文 嫩妹妹色妹妹干妹妹 av英语老师 美女合集早时候的图片 韩国浴池在线播放 奶大性爱基地 L三级片 美女的逼怡院 影音先锋偷看媳妇中文 91qq1com wweuucom 美国伦理在线 狼窝激情影院影音先锋 韩国邪恶动做片mp4 古代激情17P 男操男小说 干哥哥插妹妹逼 成人激情12P 好色视频超碰碰碰 yaolu导航最新地址 同性恋舔我小穴 在线视频主播AV 手机看片www555com 整部的黄色小说 男人强奸女人操逼的视屏 色黑木耳穴 经典乱伦性爱故事 色四图吧 广濑奈央美 无码 国产成人在线视频网站 女知青风流小说 高兴为什么呢哪俩唱的 女人wumaoyingbutu 儿子与母亲的乱伦性爱故事情节 爽图在哪里看 屄 亚洲 hongkongav 乱伦熟女做爱视频 欧美破处视频区 爆插长腿黑丝妹50p 后宫社区最新最新地址 最新肥胖人体艺术摄影 淋浴做爱av 李宗瑞性侵录像网址 热香屄 女主播艳门照 车上逼逼图 为什么我喜欢让情人操我 性爱av哪里能看 影视先锋伦理电影 国内老女人av在线视频 欧美黄色网站视频第一页 美女乱论小说 日本人操b图片 神木轮奸犯王伟 与狗爱爱网聊视频 嫩乳妹妹人体艺术 1238090com 郭富城早期经典视频 女忧快播影音先锋 色色偶性爱自拍 肏嫩屄舔雪白屁股插进去 叶欣桐图片库 国产视频操胖老奶奶10306 激情爱爱1qq号是多少 酒色视频网最新网址 成人电影微信群 苍井空的电影名字 想几个男人操逼逼 在酒吧把泥酔巨乳女带回家狂插先锋影音 色mm激情万种 美女人体馒头 明星华为网盘 老妈与我乱伦 亚洲色图 女大学生性爱 毛色黄片网站 非洲美女陆逼网战 偷拍亞洲路上幼小情侶做愛相片圖? 女人白虎屄 bb性爱视频 大鸡吧干衅 日本成人强奸乱伦电影 在哪能找艳照门 欧美嫂子qvod 我喜欢大奶女人 亚洲爱色套图 遥子里被操的图片 色爱在线视频 36周了感cnbb头己下了 不举总裁的盗种妻 美国最年轻的总统 wendao 甚至导致严重的肌腱炎。建议不要长时间发短信， 梦幻西游69群p 武器战士输出手法 韩国人体艺术新闻 关于怡红院的网名 少女18艺术图片 色沟影院 女人杂交视频 大鸡巴姐姐肏骚妹妹 日本人体艺1 上原结衣的片去哪个网站找 makeloveveido 91快播电影国外处女 人体图全女 女子健美漏屄图片 美足自慰 畸形逼 吉泽明步orrent 人妻性爱色图影音先锋 女艺术图 qovd幼交电影 韩国女明星被潜规则爱爱电影 快播免费成人禁片 日本强奸资源 熟女尿射口 鑹叉儏缃戠珯链夎皝鐭ラ亾 午夜性交图片 走光露屄毛的女人 操妹妹逼 撸撸涩涩图片 惩罚骚货熟女 小岳母的淫水 狠狠干激情 人体艺术女同性恋视频 暴操成都艺校妹妹 我爱和妈妈和妹妹乱伦小说 成人极品小说合集 人体射精艺术图30p 三级片3级片四级片视频 美女的下部肉肉图 和女仆干真爽电影 在线视频录像 WWWAAACOMYAZHO 奇艺人体艺术 人狗性交私处照 插妹妹自拍偷拍 RE789COM 鲁鲁射射 深爱激情网免费视频播放 清纯唯美中文 橹一橹小说阅读 骚女嫂子 幼女小说长篇 屄都什么样 咪咪网王老撸 手机浏览器看不了在线视频 婶婶在果园里把我了 少妇熟女乱伦强奸 粉红亚洲妹偷拍自拍 WWWWWNNVCOM 国产av大片 一圾片2013推存 日本少妇伦理小说 黄昏去操逼俄罗斯 玉女情挑吉吉音影 色四月婷婷网五月天肉文 亚州成人大奶综合电影 老江吃嫩草20 亚洲怡红院首页 日本城人电 色哥百度 WWWGAN521COM 激情网站wwwhuangsedianyingnet 强暴乱伦爱爱 httwww8888tpcom 台湾无码A片欲火焚身 婷婷五月亚洲Avwww317avcom wwwAVKUTV 本站只适合18岁以上观看 tom色播网 免费成人网绐 www111eecom四虎影裤成人精品 小苍奈奈网站 妻子地铁失身 印度毛片ed2k 儿子插完妈妈插妹妹 xingjiaoluanai WWWWEIBOCOM 淫姐姐骗了弟弟操她逼 小鲜肉操熟女 老色哥奇米影视26uuu 插进妈妈的肥逼 网友自拍偷偷师爷 成人动漫亚洲色图意淫强奸亚洲色图意淫强奸 好骚色色re 不小心小孩插大人影音先锋 韩国少女掰屄图 wwwqylsp1 YY6080PAPAPA 中国空姐干逼视频 观看美女自慰直播的网址 2017搜片神器是那个 强奸色女网 日韩人与兽爱爱 母淫网姐姐 亚洲娃娃 猛操骚货痴女护士文 亚洲大奶老女人 韩国电影熟女的欲望 偷窥厕所漫画 儿媳妇与公公三级片电影 好看站撸啊撸撸 首页偷拍自拍朋友女友的嫩穴毛还是初长成那种 李宗瑞生殖器大吗 肥乳性爱 有声小说ok网 笑傲华夏有声小说 春色夜生活 知春色 樱井莉亚下马 樱井莉亚体重 樱井莉亚123 小泽玛利亚迅雷 大家给个h网 东京热n0570 东京热n0393rmvb 可以用快播看的黄片 哪里可以看黄片 男人为什么喜欢看黄片 川村まや 33链导航 性生活知识 一点色导航 tv69在线 插插洞插插B 多情成仁高清 群交乱伦电影 色人居成人网 性乐汇色电影 淫色网 yeye撸 撸撸侠网站 苏紫紫干露露全套 干海参怎么发 Av天堂色电影 4099y影院 3d爆乳女教师西瓜 精品ady9 52AVAV好色色屌丝 国产精品情侣av 西野翔被偷窥 怡红院福利二区 在线阿v在线澳门 人人操美丽人妻 人人摸人人揉视频在线 在线无码私人影院 午夜福利1000部757 咪咪av电影 海外啪啪啪视频 南方来信免费观看 100国产自拍 rbxjdh 七色沙耶香番号 芹泽直美诱惑女教师视频 青青草原影视免费观看 桥本美步百度云 青草碰碰 青青草人碰人视频在线观看 在线看片 欧美自拍 青青 日福利av 日本情爱电影 孕妇在家孕交视频乳交 樱濑奈bt 日本少妇cosplay母狗 日本桐冈市 日本男女抽插插福利免费动态资势 在线男人福利免费视频 爱青岛在线观看 在线小萝莉 美女主播自慰出水视频 VEC-360部长奥-八木梓 麻仓优112部全集 迷夜惨案在线观看 痴女诱惑 稀缺资源 九州av 夜趣阁AV导航 无码av种子在线观看 luoliai 黄色片大胸 日本在线强奸乱伦 淫妇骚屄欠肏视频 色午夜v 小操黄色免费管看视频网址 日本亚洲欧美无码免费视频 草莓网 日本冒死厕拍视频 大香蕉一本道富二代 天天影院色小 凹凸視頻免賛在線 女主播叫床视频在线观看 行交视屏 黄色三级轮奸高清 宅男伦理 在线观看成人影院在线 xinxin68 org 国产自拍在线更新av 蓝沢润手机免费视频 你懂百度资源 和充气娃娃爱爱视频 龙头蛇尾 童颜巨乳 色和尚在线视频久和综合色色 江川美奈子在线视频 3344df 怡夏影院成人快播 1204手机在线播放下载 4438x一全国大色 露谷试看 色女孩影视最新网址 欧美群交网 波多野结衣来广州 日本she射精视频 自拍内裤爱液 伦理片自拍短视频 爱草色综合 彩美旬果xfplay 亚洲 自拍 porn 亚洲种子av 苍井空AⅤ下载迅雷 磁力链 下载 rki435 488成年网站 52av2av av天5 极品红人cutie queen 浪货成人网 91p app 上原亚衣黄色 中文字幕av12免m看 www路AV 亚洲36D 福利视频偷拍 大香蕉在緌人妻 福利avi 福利roufan动漫在线观看 大香蕉s视频 迪厅里的黑人男女裸体交配视颖 大神夜店大山极品美女带回高级寓所阳台一直 xxx-av 20147-20148 青鱼视频2自拍 国产人妖 鬼父有无码的么 韩国三级电台在线直播 劲暴欧美 一本道 东京热 自拍 国产 无码 quanqiuzuidadechenrenwangzhan 午夜小影院。 看看福利视频92 快播AV海量资源666 亚洲激情无码视频 俄罗斯群交之影院 义母吐息在线1mm 贵妃网伦理看天长网 自拍偷拍 微信小视频 526成人网 东方影库66 韩国三级在线 成人频道 永泽真央美医院BD视频中文字幕版 miae-183星奈爱 黑人 中国情侣自拍视频对白刺激 91色老板福利电影 自拍口交网 人与兽迅雷下载 大学情侣自拍视频在线 日本一本道高精无码 护士献身捐款视频百度云 欧美incest在线视频 老牛吃嫩草大尺度爱床上视频 wwwf994 哥哥搞在线播放 爱狠狼 58国产自拍在线 120214-749在线 aapp8988视频全集 成人国产视频导航 亚洲自拍91 嫂子内射 肥佬影视 福利制服诱惑在线 啪啪免费福利网站 1さつ册のみち道电影 青欲乐视频 视频操逼i 花间小视频 magnet 日本操逼小说 九州风云4电影下载 magnet 艺校妹子全裸淫语挑逗 台湾黄色毛片 破处mp4 下载 干到一半 偷偷换人的av 欧美极品AV束缚 协和影视 julia www11peng 色女香蕉 CAO96 gvg436在线播放 露脸怒草发廊高颜值小姐 www，637Df 干莉莉 我们立足于美国法律，受美国法律 小野遥 邪恶甄姬同人 小视频啪啪来电话女的说他免费 性感漂亮的女神级嫩模黑丝情趣装大尺度私拍视频曝光这身材样貌看的让人受不 新版spanking视频 性感网袜美女床上诱惑视频 先老弟影院 涩图片97 光棍影院,色戒 美丝馆福利视频 12级高清黄片 伊人谷姐干岳电影 a4yy午夜福利网神马 爸爸你的鸡巴太大轻点我好痛 主题宾馆偷情偷拍在线 缓存淫乱视频 2O19午夜福利合集 国产黄福利自拍在线视频 欧美x片视频在线观看 性爱伦理黄色一级电影 好美呀别停舒服死了 h极品卡通 胖老外酒店嫖妓白领兼职妹子鸡巴插着逼还手指抠屁眼听呻吟小姐吃不消 靠逼福利店 成人轮奸强奸网址 国产自拍大学城美女 啪啪啪青草视频免费观看 露脸超嫩的UU7后萌萌脸美女 在沙发上被大鸡巴不停抽插 天天橾夜夜橾bAV 淫妻迅雷 80s污动漫 火色院线 538日韩精品 京香JULIA ftp 超漂亮美女AV mp4 不知火舞无翼恋母 国产小视频2015 操我求你了好痒用震动棒干我好爽飞了高潮了哦哦啊啊奥视频 操教师在线 无码小说伦理电影图片 亚洲第一福利在线视频 椎名由奈无码 中文字幕 日本av播放器 户外女主播迅雷磁力链接 强插漫画 日本无码动漫AV迅雷下载下载 人体艺术6080强插漫画 悠悠资源共享 夜色邦另类图片 ipz-746中文字幕 泷泽萝拉福利在线 caoprom超碰vr专区 色尼姑免费AV 香港古装av无码种子 贵妇的沉沦女王反转版 段艺璇 大尺度 wwwmimikkk 床戏 体验区 avav177 一本道Th 多罗罗天下之战在线观看网址 vr天海翼视频在线观看 超乳爆乳巨乳影片福利 成人刺激抽插视频 S视频在线观看 车模聂子雨 板扎福利 UD-636R mp4 VIP私人玩物粉穴 草根艳舞团 县城全裸淫荡火爆 小刀电影伦理片 久久成人国产视频精品在线 在线视频播放你懂 御姐里番acg 色爱区在线视频网站 国模依诺娃与摄影师销魂视频 黑人大香蕉在线视频 操干网 高清大尺度丝袜老师 女主播资源公众号 无内丝袜福利在线 嫩模啪啪在线观看 最新国产自拍做爱 巨乳日本人妻還欠債被 538在线精品牛牛 黑皮书第一放映室 光棍影院最新福利在线看B 婷婷午夜成人视频 全裸性交 mp4波多野结衣下载短视频 国产视频58pao 我是检察官种子 磁力链 青青在线葡京视频 2018国产欧美在线va 日本啪啪视频无马赛克视频网站 欧美同性视频vibes 韩宝贝在线播放 韩国美女性解放与性交视频 国产主播特大阳具插入视频 韩国美女大胆生殖器23p 不堪欺辱的小林初花磁力链 国内在线自拍 国外另类大尺度福利网站 国产视频偷拍a在线观看 操逼视步 国产自拍丝袜 被强行占有第一次视频磁力 爆乳寡妇替欠债亡夫用身体肉偿 1曰本巨乳清木视频 有部小说男主在一个部门拿手机录下他上司和女员工做爱又拿录象和女员工做爱是 luoli写真 国产福利最新 蓝导航全福利导航 偷拍视频视频在线观看 刘可颖视频在线播放 美女翘臀肛交视频 亚洲香蕉视频在线播天堂网房 夜射猫精品av自拍在线 日本视频欧美一本道 国产大胸美女链接 mp4 2淫色人妻乱伦电影 上原亚衣 喷水无码在线 ibw518z ftp wwwjingziwou8 吉永尤利娅磁力 美女裸体直播迅雷下载 亚州无码中文字幕 www锛巃aakkk88锛巆n t午夜电影 东京热菜菜绪爱在线观看 rctd 3838pao,com 图激情五月婷婷丁香 欧美性爱大片黄 人妻众大香蕉视频在线播放了 女神一级毛片 www在线观看视频av草樱 luo女aa 射野之王在线 美国guolunlipianhuangshan 乱伦在线播放 裸聊直播在线免费观看 色老爹在线影院 鲁管电影 小视频 美国少妇与水电工 激情亚洲自拍偷拍 激情影院的祼体照片 精品小旅馆偷拍貌似很饥渴大白天偷情男女进来就迫不及待开草玩的姿势还不少 吉林市sm群 奸尸视频 magnet 拳交高清无码视频 街拍厕所 mp4 情侣激情爱爱自拍视频 极度高潮yyxf视频 AAAA快播 91金龙鱼最新-气质漂亮的良家少妇苏小小偷偷兼职做楼凤 一个更新快的色综合 av高清在线播放 偷窥自拍 清纯唯美 邱县特级黄片 男女做爱经典自拍免费 强奸乱伦影音先锋影片 免费观看爆乳家政妇 人猿泰山h版无删减mp4 小黄瓜资源站 91蟹哥 下集在线观看 黑丝袜裸体开档裤视频 欧美性交电影 黄图男在上女在一下 里番福利导航 97影院在第一页 男人透女人伦片 偷惰男女手机在线观看 手人人在线视频 阿v大香蕉性爱视频 朴妮唛在线视频全集 av在线,亚洲av 刺激影院亚洲hot 欧洲se 2艹高中女孩 男女做爱真实叫床视频 免费v片在线观看2320 哪里有a片资源 韩哥福利视频 男女抽插日p高清视频网站 バック体位で恥じらいのお尻まる出し下品な連続潮吹きjk 小島みなみ 日笔视频100部 jaⅴ颜射 友崎亚希 ftp 276ff这个网址换成什么了 大乳房美女奶头视频 一本道电影日本 自拍区偷拍亚洲最新777ap 椎名由奈 456 5388x最新更新 迷情影院一楼一凤首页 一级棒的美国j毛片 一本道日本电影天堂 91lu在线观看 普通话户外直播野战迅雷种子 东京干www12oa,me 三级黄久久免费视频 两性做爱高清写真 激情五月激情成人激情妹妹 90后人体艺术网 日本乱伦肛交灌肠颜射放尿 美女秘书加班被xo图片 xxx虐待阴茎视频 家庭乱伦都市激情校园春色自拍偷拍 丰满骚娘们视频 美女动态私处照 五月天97ss 日韩美女主播网站 欧美性爱歪歪色影网 911scc 亚洲性交30p 赶尸艳谭女角色办演着 全国成人色 美女的超短裙快播 很很累苍 xxxx333nm 美乳22p 美妞屄屄 丁香成人十次啦导航 绣由衣乱伦小说 狠狠撸操逼图片